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 How Will Season 4 Be Different?, Character and relationship development
SeddieBerserker
Posted: Jun 14 2010, 02:13 AM


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We haven't seen iBeat the Heat yet, but I'd like to hear what you think Season 4 will be like. One thing that comes to mind is Freddie. Contrast Freddie Benson in iPilot to Freddie Benson in iBelieve in Bigfoot. The early Freddie was spazzy, stalkerish, and incredibly geeky. The current Freddie is cool, witty, and much more like Sam. I'd also like to see much more character development in Sam this season.
We've also seen a much better relationship between Sam and Freddie. In iBelieve in Bigfoot, he approches Sam at her locker without an objective. Before, she was just a way for him to get to his objective (usually Carly). Sam is also more likely to refer to him by the affectionate "Fredly", rather than an insult.
So, what are your thoughts on Season 4?
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Posted: Jun 14 2010, 02:18 AM


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I think that the biggest difference we are going to see from other seasons is development. We've had development in the past, but nothing major. I think that a lot of this season will be focused on the characters.

Personally what I would *like* to see is a few more episodes with the comedy on the back burner (still present, but not as much) and focus more on drama. Of course this would never happen because the show is a comedy show, but it's what I'd like to see.
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Posted: Jun 14 2010, 03:15 AM


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Less fillers please!

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SamLurvsHam
Posted: Jun 14 2010, 04:23 AM


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Okay *rubs hands together* Imma put this in parts Okay *rubs hands together* Imma put this in parts :laugh:

Okay first, Carly. In the first season Carly was just...well...normal. Typical eighth-grade bubbly girl. She rejected Freddie on MANY ocassions, so she didn't REALLY have feelings for him. I bet if I said this an angry Creddier would flame me but I agree with Carly. That nose-kiss was strictly nasal!
In season two, Carly was still the stereotypical teenage girly girl, but I thought she got a little more rebellious. We saw that in iDABB where she dated Griffin even though Spencer hated it and in iLook Alike where Spencer didn't allow her to go to the MMA fight but she found a way to go anyway. I didn't see much interaction with her and Freddie besides her rejecting him on the few ocassions he "made a move" on her. Only when she wanted something she would do the "Please, for me?" thing. That DOESN'T mean she "loves" him. It just means she wants someone to do something for her. I've done it with a lot of my guy friends, but it doesn't mean I'm in love with them.
In season three, Carly was still just as bubbly and just as stereotypical. The only thing different was that she had MUCH more "Creddie-ish interaction" Some might say she was jealous in iTTK, but she WASN'T. She just couldn't fathom the idea of Sam and Freddie KISSING. Wouldn't YOU be a little high-strung if two of your best friends who supposedly HATED eachother kissed. I know I would be. It doesn't mean I'm "jealous". Then we had the dance in iSD, but I don't take put it under romantic terms. It was just her best guy friend telling her that they both deserved a dance. So....they did. Nothing wrong with that. Then iSYL diddied along. Carly THOUGHT she liked him. Thought is the key word here peoples. Carly didn't REALLY like him. She found that out at the end thanks to Freddie (who found that out thanks to Sam :D) That end kiss-on-the cheek was friendly, not romantic. The only other thing I have to add about season 3 Carly was that she showed she can be high-strung. She showed this in ALL of iTTK, at the end of iSO, and a little bit right after she first kissed Freddie in iSYL.
In season 4, I think Carly will mature a little if she didn't already in iBTH. She is going to have to go through some major character developement , too. A lot of Creddiers skip over Carly character developement and just think..."Freddie and Carly are gonna love each other and skip with Lewbert in a happy lobby. There will be cubed fruit and balloons will fall from the sky." No. Not happing. IF (notice the if) and dear God I HOPE he doesn't go with Creddie, Carly will have to mature quite a bit. She can't go from "No Freddie, I don't like you in THAT way to...Oh Freddie, you're the cukiest." Even if she ends up having a different long-term boyfriend, she STILL has to mature. That's why I think we'll have some growing-up on Carly's part in season 4.

Okay, Sam. In season 1, Sam had shown just plain viciousness towards just about everyone except Carly. She had her sweet moments though. Her little resting-head-on-the-shoulder thing with Freddie and her crying moment in iDWF. With Freddie she said she hated him, but she might've already realized she liked him. I think that happened in season 3, but it sure could've happened in season 1, too.
In season two, Sam still kept the hate thing with Freddie, but she acted more like friends with him than in season 1. In my opinion Sam developed feelings towards him after that kiss. She just didn't REALIZE them yet. She just kinda let 'em go, free to drift.
In season 3, Sam developed WAY more concerning Seddie emotional chiz. I mean...she might've realized right then and there that she liked Freddie if Spencer hadn't barged in the room in iTTK. I personally think that she realized these feelings in iSD when she thought that Carly REALLY had feelings for Freddie. She walked in on them at the worst time. (The BEST time for us Seddiers though) This wasn't out-of-the-blue for her though. Unlike Carly, Sam has been developing slowly. Like I said, I think Sam developed feelings for Freddie in iKiss, but the realization train didn't hit her yet. I believe it hit her in iSD. In one of the hardest ways possible. She shoved them right back down, but it doesn't mean they're gone forever. No doubt they'll resurface again now that we've seen she has them. I don't think she was jealous in iSYL, because she KNEW Carly didn't REALLY like him. I think she was jealous in iSD though because she thought Carly genuinley had feelings for Freddie.
Go to season 4, and I think Sam's feelings will resurface and she'll treat Freddie more as a friend than in previous seasons. She's not gonna stop using him as her punching bag though. That would be too weird ;D.

So that's all I have to say right now. I'll do Freddie later. It took me two hours to type this between watching The Soup, Chelsea Lately, and now, The Nanny. So....wow. That was probably one of my longest posts. Yay!
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Posted: Jun 14 2010, 05:28 AM


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QUOTE (SamLurvsHam @ Jun 13 2010, 11:23 PM)
Freddie and Carly are gonna love each other and skip with Lewbert in a happy lobby. There will be cubed fruit and balloons will fall from the sky.

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Posted: Jun 14 2010, 09:56 PM


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QUOTE (SamLurvsHam @ Jun 14 2010, 04:23 AM)
Go to season 4, and I think Sam's feelings will resurface and she'll treat Freddie more as a friend than in previous seasons.  She's not gonna stop using him as her punching bag though.  That would be too weird  ;D.


You know Freddie loves it ;) It's Sam's way of showing affection :seddie:
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Posted: Jun 15 2010, 02:01 AM


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There could be CLOSURE with one of the ships--hopefully by then we can tell,and I mean the audience can, who will end up with who.(this is if there's a season 5)

Or we can see who ends up with who....yes that will be swell. ;)
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Posted: Jun 15 2010, 02:40 AM


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I don't know. I kind of want Dan to keep all the options open until the very end. It would feel kind of nice to receive closure as part of a finale episode.
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Posted: Jun 15 2010, 03:22 PM


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In season 4, I think Freddie will mature to the point to where he actually realizes that he doesn't hate Sam. I mean, ya, in past episodes like "I Reunite With Missy" He got rid of Missy for Sam, even after saying that she wasn't his friend. I'm saying that he'll realize that he likes her, maybe as just a friend (I hope it's more than friends). He already reacts better when she insults him. He doesn't spazz out like he used to. In fact, Sam rarely insults him. It's more like a playful type of insult. Anyway, he'll realize that he does care for her, in the sense that he hopes they can be better off than what they were. (I hope that means :seddie: )
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Posted: Jun 15 2010, 11:34 PM


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QUOTE (HeartOfGold89 @ Jun 15 2010, 02:40 AM)
I don't know. I kind of want Dan to keep all the options open until the very end. It would feel kind of nice to receive closure as part of a finale episode.

I think a lot of the big relationship stuff is going to remain open til the very end. However, I don't want the episodes to stray so much from making any sort of development that he ends up cramming everything into the last two/three episodes.
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Posted: Jun 16 2010, 12:06 AM


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QUOTE (SarcasticLeaves @ Jun 15 2010, 07:34 PM)
I think a lot of the big relationship stuff is going to remain open til the very end. However, I don't want the episodes to stray so much from making any sort of development that he ends up cramming everything into the last two/three episodes.

I agree that would be a mistake, the problem for Dan is that he isn't sure exactly how long the show is going to run. How do you time it right? Do you engineer a hook-up and then you get word that Nick wants more episodes? That would be fine with me, because then you'd get episodes after a ship actually happens. I can't predict whether Dan would want to do that, though.
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Posted: Jun 16 2010, 01:17 AM


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QUOTE (Archnemesis @ Jun 16 2010, 12:06 AM)
I agree that would be a mistake, the problem for Dan is that he isn't sure exactly how long the show is going to run. How do you time it right? Do you engineer a hook-up and then you get word that Nick wants more episodes? That would be fine with me, because then you'd get episodes after a ship actually happens. I can't predict whether Dan would want to do that, though.

I understand where you're coming from, but I believe Dan can do more than what he's been doing more lately. At this point I feel if the show only had five more episodes left everything would be rushed. What I loved so much about season 2 is that he was able to balance out the random yet still have somewhat of a direction/storyline going even if it was only in a handful of episodes.

Keep in mind that none of the Seddie plots have closure yet, everything is still open. With Creddie I feel like we might get one more episode before it's all said and done with. I think "iSaved Your Life" summed it up pretty well, now it's more along the lines of a simple yes or no. I strongly believe the end of Creddie is Carly returning to how she felt before (which seems to have happened already) and Freddie no longer desiring a relationship with her because he realized he has feelings for someone who isn't Carly. ;) I still have a feeling that Freddie's selfless act in "iReunite with Missy" is going to play a strong role in Seddie. But I believe I'm getting off topic now.. so I'll shut up. Sorry. :eeps:

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Posted: Jun 16 2010, 01:27 AM


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QUOTE (SarcasticLeaves @ Jun 15 2010, 09:17 PM)
I understand where you're coming from, but I believe Dan can do more than what he's been doing more lately. At this point I feel if the show only had five more episodes left everything would be rushed.


You're not the only one thinking development has been slow this year. In some ways I agree, but iTTK was the season opener, and iSD was early. iSYL has left a Creddie taste in our mouths for a while, considering subsequent episodes haven't been shippy. That's contributing to our perceptions of the season so far.

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Keep in mind that none of the Seddie plots have closure yet, everything is still open. With Creddie I feel like we might get one more episode before it's all said and done with. I think "iSaved Your Life" summed it up pretty well, now it's more along the lines of a simple yes or no.


Agree totally. Carly and Freddie talk, they agree to be just friends, he promises that he's over her, then after that Carly mistakenly thinks Freddie has gone back to his old ways. We know better.

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I still have a feeling that Freddie's selfless act in "iReunite with Missy" is going to play a strong role in Seddie.


I really hope so. It would be a sin to waste it. And you're not off-topic. :)
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Posted: Jun 16 2010, 02:44 AM


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With all this talk about relationship development between Freddie and Sam, I just really want to throw this out there:

I am not ENTIRELY sure what we're going to see in iBeat the Heat, but if the relationship doesn't commence, I would like to see Freddie change a bit in Season 4 before Sam and Freddie explore a relationship. For instance, throughout the series (to me) it seems as though SAM would be the one to A. Admit her feelings. and B. Start the relationship. I mean, it doesn't really matter who starts it, AS LONG as it starts. ;) But I would like to see some Freddie development. FREDDIE should be the one to confess his feelings and lay a big, fat kiss on her. It would show that he is, in fact, completely over Carly. Of course, to convince Sam, he'll probably tell her that Sam is IN NO WAY his second choice (which of course would be the truth, because Freddie would NEVER ask Sam out unless he has developed HUGELY strong feelings for her).

So I ask you Seddiers: Should Sam or Freddie commence the relationship? Or maybe it could be mutual? Tell me what you think.
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Posted: Jun 16 2010, 03:13 AM


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QUOTE (seddieisthecure @ Jun 15 2010, 10:44 PM)
So I ask you Seddiers: Should Sam or Freddie commence the relationship? Or maybe it could be mutual? Tell me what you think.

My bet is they'll both be somewhat reluctant, and Carly will be a catalyst.
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