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A forum documenting factually inaccurate July 7th Press and Media coverage. Here you will find copies of complaints to those responsible for propagating lies and myths that have hitherto gone unchallenged and their responses. Also included in this forum are copies of complaints to the Press Complaints Commission, along with copies of Freedom of Information requests, letters to MPs and communications with miscellaneous other public servants.

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 Rachel North issues 'invite' to The Antagonist, ... with her customary vitriol & threats
Posted: Feb 3 2008, 02:48 PM

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From The Met's magazine, The Job:


A cyber-stalker who carried out a
“vicious, vitriolic and vindictive”
harassment campaign against
a victim of the July 2005 bomb
attacks in the capital, was jailed
earlier this year.

Victim Rachel North, 36, gave
up her job to campaign for an
independent inquiry into the
But Felicity Jane Lowde,
41, of Oxford, used her own blog
and e-mail to harass Ms North,
accusing her of “making a living
off the backs of the dead”.

The court heard that the victim,
who survived the Russell Square/
Piccadilly Line bombing, which
killed 26 people, feared for her
after more than 100 postings
by Lowde. Lowde was convicted of
harassment in her absence when
she failed to appear in court last
Lowde used her own blog and e-mail
to harass the victim, accusing her of
“making a living off the backs of the dead”
April and went on the run. Judge
Malcolm Read told her that she
had struck at the victim’s “terrible
experience and trauma” as a victim
of the London bombings with a
“vicious, vitriolic and vindictive”
campaign. She then “aggravated”
the situation by breaching her
bail conditions and continuing to
persecute Ms North even though
police were involved. Mr Read told
Lowde: “The offences, I would say,
are, at the very top end, to be taken
in a prosecution of harassment and
therefore have to be dealt with at
the top end of my powers.” Lowde
was charged under the Protection
From Harassment Act 1997 for the
abuse waged at Ms North between
May 2006 and January 2007. She
was jailed for six months, given a
restraining order and an anti-social
behaviour order (ASBO). The
ASBO is to last for five years.
Posted: May 4 2008, 02:48 PM

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The lady scores an own goal:
When academics lose their power of reason

    * Nick Cohen
    * The Observer,
    * Sunday May 4 2008

This article appeared in the Observer on Sunday May 04 2008 on p32 of the Comment section. It was last updated at 01:25 on May 04 2008.

Dr Nicholas Kollerstrom is convinced that academics have punished him for a 'thought crime'. The distinguished astronomer exercised his right as an intellectual in a free society to speak his mind. His university responded by stripping him of his research fellowship and declared that it wishes to have 'absolutely no association' with him.

To make matters worse, Kollerstrom was denounced by University College, London, one of Europe's greatest bastions of academic integrity, whose founder, Jeremy Bentham, defended intellectual freedom with the stirring words: 'As to the evil which results from a censorship, it is impossible to measure it, for it is impossible to tell where it ends.'

Admittedly, if the philosopher had lived long enough to hear the conspiracy theories of the 21st century, even his defence of free speech might have weakened. Once he was away from his scientific studies, Kollerstrom embraced them all. 'Let us hope the schoolchildren visitors are properly taught about the elegant swimming pool at Auschwitz, built by the inmates, who would sunbathe there on Saturday and Sunday afternoons while watching the water polo matches,' he said of the Nazi genocide. 'Let's hope they are shown postcards written from Auschwitz, where the postman would collect the mail twice weekly.'

Denying the crimes of the clerical fascists of today comes easily to a man who can deny the crimes of the secular fascists of the 1940s. Kollerstrom has opined at length on how the 9/11 attacks on New York and the Pentagon and the 7/7 London bombings were not the work of the actual bombers, but of Western security forces acting on the orders of - you'll never guess - their 'Zionist masters'.

As it happens, Hasib Hussain, the 7/7 suicide bomber on the number 30 bus, detonated his explosives in Tavistock Square, just round the corner from University College's main campus in central London. The Islamist didn't kill research fellows, but cut short the blameless life of Gladys Wundowa, a Ghanaian who worked as a cleaner at the college.

I can understand how the attempts of one of its fellows to exonerate her murderer repelled the college's managers. Equally obviously, they must have thought they could safely dismiss him as a member of a loathsome group of extremists. Rachel North, a victim of the bombings, would not contradict them on that point. She described how respect for the dead and injured didn't figure in his tormented mind. He harried survivors, she said, tracking them down and harangued them with 'his barking "theories" that the bombers were innocent "patsies" executed by the state'.

A creep from the fringe, then, and a pestilential one at that. But the clearest trend in intellectual life is the fringe developing trends in the mainstream and magnifying them into grotesque shapes. To put it another way, Kollerstrom is not as far away from respectable academics as University College assumes. His faults are theirs too.

If a bomb were to explode outside University College today, mainstream voices would fill the airwaves and say that responsibility for the carnage lay with the British, American or Israeli governments. Their arguments would be passionate and convincing, but I don't need to tell you every one of them would avoid mentioning the Islamist ideology that motivated Hasib Hussain and men like him. To divert attention from a criminal is not the same as pretending that the criminal is innocent. But it isn't so far away from it either.

Media London is currently muttering about commissioning editors being intellectually crippled by a thoughtless version of multiculturalism that can't take account of the differences between liberals and reactionaries, secularists and fanatics, within communities. The BBC caused the resentment by shelving a drama documentary on the 7/7 bombings after its researchers, several of them British Muslims, supplied a detailed picture of young men caught up by the theocratic justifications for slaughter.

The researchers are bitter, not least because the bombers' families read the script and vouched for its authenticity. BBC people tell me that the grounds for postponing the documentary were artistic and it may yet be made for the fifth anniversary of the atrocities. I'm sure they're telling the truth, but am equally sure that if they do come to film it, they will face internal opposition from colleagues who, in a vague and ill-thought- out manner, think it not quite proper to discuss such matters in public.

As for conspiracy theory, though Holocaust denial is not acceptable in the West, in academia, the scheming Jew is back as a cosmic force able to pull the strings of his dupes and order the world to his desires. American academics John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt argued to widespread acclaim that a conspiracy of powerful Jews decided to serve the interests of Israel by persuading America to invade Iraq in 2003.

Why the Elders of Zion didn't direct the US administration to invade Iran, which wants to wipe Israel off the map, rather than Saddam's Iraq, which was crippled by sanctions, they don't say and, more interestingly, are rarely asked. Liberals would once have dismissed their thesis as far-right ramblings. Now the London Review of Books, house journal of liberal academia, repeats it.

Indeed, although he perpetuates Nazi doctrine, Kollerstrom presents himself as a man of the left rather than the far right. He says that he is not a member of a neo-Nazi organisation, but an active supporter of the Green party, Respect and CND. Given the political gyrations of our times, he may well be telling the truth.

Before Bentham died, he asked that his body be preserved so that it could be exhibited at the college he founded. The authorities agreed and Bentham sits in a wooden box in South Cloisters as if to remind academics and students to uphold his commitment to reason.

Rather than seeking to restrict Kollerstrom's academic freedom, their successors would have done better to have agreed to preserve his body and place it next to Bentham's as a reminder to liberal intellectuals of the state they may come to if they abandon liberal principles.
Posted: May 4 2008, 02:59 PM

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That's Bentham the would-be screw who designed the model for today's technological surveillance "prison society".

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A dead nutter in a bookcase

This post has been edited by justthefacts on May 4 2008, 03:00 PM
The Antagonist
Posted: May 4 2008, 03:38 PM


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QUOTE ("Rachel "North"")
It is perfectly reasonable to condemn the murderous actions of the bombers and at the same time understand that London was targeted because of UK foreign policy. That doesn't mean you are in sympathy with the bombers or their ideology.

Now, where have I seen this line of reasoning before? Oh yes, it was from Nick Griffin of the BNP when the BNP caused a stir for using a shot of the number 30 bus in some of their propaganda:
QUOTE ("Neo Nazi Nick Griffin")
"Obviously Islamic terrorists carried out the attacks, but it is the Labour Party's fault they did it.

"By voting Labour, people gave us a Government which took us into an illegal war in Iraq that turned us all into targets.
The Antagonist
Posted: May 4 2008, 04:51 PM


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A well observed comment on Cohen's article:
May 4, 2008 10:16 AM

Nick Cohen has really made a far out accusation against Dr. Kollertstrom, who has never preached Nazi doctrine - I am surprised the Observer would print such a accusation.

Cohen, further, does NOT speak for the Jewish community at large, one might find a better reflection of their attitude at

There Kollerstrom is talked about by someone who knows him, not by someone who does not, and is only paid to sound off.

Cohen and the Rachel 'North'/Johnny 'Void' crew are showing their ignorance, and it is not surprising that when an attempt to libel Kollerstrom by photoshopping him in Nazi uniform failed, as it was so openly discussed and known to be a fraud on urban75, they went after him in other media.

How Cohen can claim to judge 'what is left' and what it right is also a bit troubling, as he so vehemently attacked Ken Livingstone, who yesterday lost the election. Great, thanks Cohen, now we have a Mayor who wants to forget about the poor and public transportation. Had you read the London Broiges spot you might have seen some common sense displayed, not your presumption.

Here in London some of your fellow Jews call you a ganzer k'nacker, but you may prefer to dismiss them or call them Nazis.

As to Israeli influence in the attack on Iraq, it was clear that this was the case, but again, that influence does not speak for all Jews.

And as to conspiracy theories, these were stifled in 1933 when some people questioned the Reichstag Fire. If they had been allowed to debate this more, we would not have had the Shoah. We may apportion some blame for this event on the Nick Cohens of the world - and before you try to rebut the facts about that act, try looking at the Nuremberg trial transcripts - it was admitted by one of the few surviving perpetrators. It had also been admitted in 1934 by a lawyer who worked with the Nazi hierarchy. But no one listened, or was allowed to. Those who did were sent to camps - and now, Mr. Cohen, your supporter former Congressman Joe Scarborough in the US wants to send those questioning 9/11 and 7/7 to "secret camps in Eastern Europe" from whence they will never be heard from again. Jawohl, Sieg Heil!

And you have the nerve to assert that those questioning 9/11, 7/7, and perhaps the anthrax attacks are wrong?

Last point - many of those questioning the attacks are Jewish: Barbara Rosenberg, Jarred Israel, Danny Goldberg, Simon Aaronowitz, Barry Chamish - you might stop bashing Jews, Mr. Cohen.
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Memories crash, on tireless waves . . .

QUOTE ("Rachel North")

It is perfectly reasonable to condemn the murderous actions of the bombers and at the same time understand that London was targeted because of UK foreign policy.

Understandable misapprehension, given such a busy life

Perhaps those forwarding such powerful ideas might benefit from being reminded of the official response to such criticisms from the not too distant past . . .

3 days after the fiasco that was the liquid bomb boIIlocks of 10.8, the then, esteemed but former drunk, Home Secretary, John "just call me Doctor" Reid, was reported as saying:

QUOTE ("BBC on 13.8.2006")
Mr Reid also said the government believes the first al-Qaeda plot in the UK was in 2000 in Birmingham, preceding the war in Iraq and the 9/11 attacks.


The good lady's, oft linked, erstwhile erudite blog, Blairwatch had this to say about the Doctor's pronouncement:

QUOTE ("Blairwatch")
John Reid talks more
On August 13th, 2006 John Reid is a twat (not verified) says:

John Reid talks more shite:

"at least four major plots" have been thwarted since the 7 July attacks.

Oh really, so why did we not hear about those? Seeing as the security services/police constantly rush (prematurely) to the media are we expected to believe this?

"terribly inconvenient regime" of restrictions imposed on carrying hand luggage

More like public humiliation - no toothpaste, aftershave, baby's milk. For goodness sake!

"highly likely there would be another terrorist attempt"

Yeah, because no one's buying this crap. We also have the US congressionals - expect something in October.

"dreadful misjudgement that foreign policy of this country should be shaped in part, or in whole, under the threat of terrorism activity".

Complete and utter nonsense. You tread on someone's neck they'll want to get back at you.

the government also believes the first al-Qaeda plot in the UK was in 2000

Again, why no mention until 6 years later? Complete and utter nonsense. The use of the word 'believes' - WTF?, either they did or they didn't.

In case the BBC report, or an an anonymous blogger on Blairwatch, doesn't currently cut it for the shifting sands of Ms North, then maybe The Hansard will:

QUOTE ("The Hansard")
John Reid: I can tell the hon. Gentleman that we know now that the first AQ-related conspiracy plot in this country was in 2000, and that was in Birmingham.

That ickle gem was recorded, in stone, on 15th Jan 2007.

And repeated by, amongst others, The Birmingham Mail on 14.8.2006

QUOTE ("The Birmingham Mail")
Terrorists targeted Brum six years ago

Aug 14 2006

By Mark Cowan, Birmingham Mail

BIRMINGHAM was at the centre of an al-Qaida bomb plot six years ago - but details were kept under wraps by British intelligence, it emerged today.

Security services believe the city could have suffered a devastating bomb attack a year before the 9/11 Twin Towers atrocity.

That plot was thwarted by secret agents who pounced on the group before they could assemble any device.

No-one was ever prosecuted because anti-terror legislation was not as strong then.

After neutralising the threat, the security services kept a tight lid on the raid and any publicity surrounding it as they battled to get more intelligence on the emerging threat.

Details of the plot against Birmingham emerged yesterday when Home Secretary John Reid revealed the first al-Qaida strike against the city pre-dated the controversial war in Iraq seen by some in the community as sparking disaffection.

Mr Reid said: "We now think in retrospect that the first al-Qaida plot, for instance against this country, preceded by quite a while our intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan and actually preceded 9/11. It was in Birmingham back in the year 2000."

Birmingham MP Khalid Mah-mood said he had spoken to the Home Secretary following the revelation.

While specific details of the threat remained top secret, he said: "I have been told there was an operation in the city by the intelligence services. There was a plot that would have involved explosives but they managed to foil it.

"It would appear that while all the components were there, the group had not got all the elements to go ahead and do it.

"The security services averted anything from happening before it could be put together."

It is understood the group had assembled components for the plot in Birmingham and the city could have been a target.

While the identities of the terrorist suspects involved are unknown the intelligence services would have kept them under watch afterwards.

Mr Mahmood, Labour MP for Perry Barr, said anti-terror laws had now been updated and if the incident were to happen again plotters would be prosecuted. He added: "There is nothing here for her public to worry about. The incident was averted.

"Now we are able to tackle people for preparing for acts of terrorism."

He claimed British foreign policy was not to blame for disaffection many said was pushing British-born extremists into terrorism.

"A lot of people may disagree with the foreign policy and they are quite right to do so but that doesn't mean you strap a bomb to yourself and blow up innocent people," said the MP.

Police sources also confirmed that bomb-maker Moinul Abedin, who was arrested at his Sparkbrook home in 2000 and found with home-made explosives, was believed to have had links with the terror network.

So, for the very up to date, "blowback" from illegal invasions was, officially, summarily dismissed shortly after 10.8.2006, and then some, subsequently.

Strange that it took 6 years for the news that the currently, to be incarcerated in Long Lartin for a further 14 years, Moinul Abedin, aka by MI5 as, "Pivoting Dancer" should break on the BBC only 3 days after the mother's milk terrorism at Heathrow.

I was reflecting today on this drip fed rhetoric that has it's simplistic and camouflaged roots in the politics of the state-run playground, for the drip fed masses.

I recall a specific case.

The precedent that has since been appropriated as "the convenient and timely justification of a certain Home Secretary."

Dr. Reid, the dove not the hawk, announced in the wake of the fiasco that was 10.8 that he and therefore, "we", the entire government since May 1997, had only just discovered that the roots of Islamo-bombing in the UK, pre-dated 9/11.

In a trice, any counter argument that centred on the aftermath of 9/11, was, by edict and thus, by case history, rendered null and void.

They started it. We didn't.

The playing of the trump card was mysteriously delayed from it's more obvious stage that was Iraq 2003.

That cloud of state sanctioned lies had legs yet. It would run and run and run you see.

Until the utter depravity that was 10.8 demanded the trump card.

Henceforth, in the mind of the state, we were persuaded to negate the contemporary blow-back argument in favour of a little known event that was mercifully "sniffed out" by our security services, who intervened on a "tip off" about Birmingham in 2000.

They started it. In Birmingham in 2000. You see.

The then, transient and not forgotten incumbent at the now, fragmented Home Office could be forgiven his proclamation, simply because it was before "his time" and maybe, it wasn't his assessment anyway. We'll probably never know.

Or will we.

The idea that the MI5 sting that was Moinul Abedin would somehow be shoved into Reid's unsuspecting in-tray, to provide the political raison d'etre of his tenure as the democratically elected, agent provocateur and then political chief of domestic terror, may have, understandably, escaped him.

Plausible deniability of the trump card that was designed and held back for such an event that was the farce of 10.8

The "ace in the hole" that was the miraculous, justice dodging Dr Faisal Mostafa, Ph.D, (Chemistry), or "Molten Lava" as MI5 called him, who was the tutor of Mr Abedin's brother, as well as the inspiration for his siblings incarceration also proved to be the latent justification for the War on Terror, that, somehow, we all missed.

Funny that it was hardly mentioned at the time.

Six years it took, for some oblique reference.

Six years into a man's sentence of 20 years.

And for what ?

To provide the reason, our reason, that the "event" in Birmingham in November 2000, orchestrated by the ever so suspect Doctor and his MI5 handlers, would, indeed prove for the dissenters and the desperate state alike, that "they" cast the first stone.

I wrote to Mr Abedin a while back.

"Pivoting Dancer" replied. Candidly.

My second letter went unanswered.

The war goes on . . .

Reference my earlier post about the 2000 bomb plot.

The trial took place in 2002 and among the charges were "conspiracy to cause explosions between 1 October and 18 November 2000" although both men were cleared of this charge.

Moinul Abedin, known to MI5 as "Pivoting Dancer" was convicted of committing an act with intent to cause an explosion using the explosive HMTD and was jailed for 20 years.

His "accomplice" the very dangerous to know, Dr Faisal Mostafa, a chemistry Phd., known to MI5 as "Molten Lava" was, luckily, acquitted of all terrorist charges. Again.

The incredibly fortunate Dr Faisal Mostafa, coincidentally was acquitted on similar charges in 1996 but served a short sentence for posession of a pistol as a result of that trial.

After his second acquittal in a row on terrorist charges the dodgy Doctor was reported to have said "I have been a fool. You'd think I'd know better after the last time."

Well depends what you mean by a fool really Doc, I mean, with your rather obvious luck in the courts, the possibilities are endless, rather like molten lava rolling down a hillside, although dangerous to buildings and people, quite unstoppable with a volcano behind you.

As for the files that were found, on the dodgy Doctors hard drive, they amounted to a "terrorist's handbook" and included documents such as "Guerilla's Arsenal" and "Middle Eastern Terrorist Bomb Design" and "Mujahideen Explosives Handbook".

It turns out that these documents actually do exist.

GUERILLA'S ARSENAL by David Harber; a good beginners guide to explosives and detonators, techniques and applications.

"Mujahideen Terrorist Handbook", an American publication which lists, among other things, ‘Buying explosives and propellants', ‘useful household chemicals and availability', ‘preparation of chemicals', ‘explosives recipes,' ‘ignition devices', ‘lists of suppliers' and a ‘checklist for raids on labs', prioritizing the materials to be stolen.

Hmm. An American Publication eh . . .

"Mid East Terrorist Bomb Design" only returns a couple of google hits. One can be found on a CD available here on a forum run by Voyager Systems of Beverley Hills. No not the Beverley Hills in Afghanistan, the one in Hollywood. and another result emerges from a company called, a portal in Washington State. No not the one in Afghanistan the one in the USA.

So no need to visit the "secret Al Qaeeda websites" then as claimed by the "security expert" on TV all day on August 10th.

Having refused to answer police questions after he was arrested, Mr Abedin said some interesting comments at his trial in 2002.

The father-of-two claimed on Friday he had nothing to hide from police officers who raided a house he rented in Barrows Road, Sparkhill, Birmingham.

Regarding the allegation that his home which he shared with his wife and children, Abedin said "My child was running around all over the house, for God's sake,"

"These people (the prosecution) are portraying it as some major bomb factory in Barrows Road and my wife and children hanging around a bomb factory. "

"The prosecution have alleged that I was involved in some kind of conspiracy. Quite categorically, that is not the fact."

"Surely a sane person would go and destroy things - I didn't do no such action at all."

As it happens, the MI5 chap, Jonathan Evans, erstwhile deputy to the long lamented Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller, was the very same Jonathan Evans who:

QUOTE ("The Times")
Mr Evans, 49, was in charge of the first counter-terrorist investigation in Britain to target al-Qaeda. He was assistant director of international counter-terrorism in 2000 when MI5 and West Midlands Police uncovered a plot by a Bangla-deshi-born man, later found to be connected with al-Qaeda, to cause an explosion. Moinul Abedin, from Birmingham, was sentenced in February 2002 to 20 years in prison.

Whom the Times, also reported on March 8, 2007 that:

MI5 regards the Birmingham case as the first evidence of al-Qaeda activity in Britain.

Some more msm reporting for you Ms North:

These are all from the Birmingham Mail, written by Armardeep Bassey, you know, the journalist that was "kidnapped" in Pakistan?

QUOTE ("Armardeep Bassey")
FOR a suspect codenamed 'molten lava', Dr Faisal Mostafa was a remarkably cool customer when eventually snared by his long-standing adversaries at MI5.

After all, the Phd chemistry graduate had seen it all before six years ago when security service officers raided his Stockport home and recovered what they claimed was bomb-making material and firearms.

But when tried at Manchester Crown Court, the self-confessed explosives enthusiast was cleared of conspiring to cause explosions.

Last week history appeared to repeat itself when a jury at Birmingham Crown Court cleared him AGAIN as he faced exactly the same charge.

But his co-accused Moinul Abedin, 28 - an unemployed former waiter and petty criminal from Sparkbrook, Birmingham - was sentenced to 20 years.

Mostafa's defence was that he had been used by Bangladeshi-born Abedin because of his expertise in explosives and how to make them.

He said it was his hobby and that he enjoyed experimenting with chemicals - with one test ending up with him losing his fingers.

Abedin, in turn, had claimed that the tens of kilogrammes of the highly explosive HMTD chemical found at addresses he had rented were for a fireworks shop that Mostafa had suggested they set up.

Mostafa was clearly relieved when the not guilty verdict was delivered and sobbed 'I can't believe it' as he left the dock.

Earlier the court heard how the 38 year-old, from the upmarket Heaton Mersey suburb of Stockport, Cheshire, had made an 'unsolicited' comment to a police officer after his arrest at Birmingham New Street Station in November 2000.

He was on his way back to Stockport and had been living in a property owned by the Jami Mosque in Small Heath, Birmingham, where he worked as a development officer and chemistry teacher.

It was there that he had first met Abedin after giving chemistry lessons to his younger brother, Imaannul.

Later that week, he was flying out to Bangladesh with his family and was in a hurry to return home to make preparations.

When Special Branch officers arrested him at New Street, he was carrying four computer disks which carried instructions on how to make bombs.

Later police found traces of the explosive HMTD chemical on his pinstripe jacket and green anorak that he was wearing.

At Halesowen police station, where he was taken and questioned, Mostafa was alleged to have told an officer: 'I've been a fool. You'd think I'd know better after the last time.'

'Last time' was February 1996 when Manchester Polytechnic graduate Dr Mostafa was arrested, along with two others.

All three were charged with conspiring to cause explosions while Mostafa faced a further charge of the illegal possession of a firearm.

One of the co-accused was student Iftikhar Sattar, then 25, of Redditch, Worcestershire, who was studying at UMIST where Mostafa was also studying for his Phd in metal corrosion.

Raids by Special Branch officers in Greater Manchester and West Mercia uncovered timers, igniters and documents which showed how to make explosive devices.

They also found radical Muslim newsletters. Similar material was discovered on his laptop computer after his arrest in November 2000.

Although no list of intended targets was found, photographs were discovered at Sattar's home of a visit by the Israeli ambassador to Manchester University in 1993. Other photographs showed demonstrations against Israeli activities and a photo found at Mostafa's home showed two men in camouflage, wearing balaclavas and carrying automatic weapons.

Mostafa later told police that the men depicted on the photograph were on a duck-shooting expedition.

Documents found at Mostafa's house included diagrams of a 20lb explosive device being placed by the roadside.

Another document contained the words 'nuclear' 'atomic' and 'killed' while a third set of documents said 'Eliminate all 20 shops, eliminate owners, supplier, depot.'

Also recovered from his home was a 'shopping list' of chemicals to make bombs while another list revealed how supplies for homemade bombs could be found at chemists, garden shops and hardware stores.

Mostafa explained to the 1996 jury that he was interested in writing a book about explosives.

Officers also found various chemicals, guns, barrels, rounds of ammunition, a bullet-proof vest and a pounds 1,600 pair of night-sight binoculars.

Dr Mostafa told the Manchester jury that the explosives found at his home were for his own pleasure and experiments. He said they were for making fireworks, another of his passions.

An adapted watch face was claimed to be part of a timing device for a bomb - but Mostafa told the court he used it to switch on lights or a radio. Seven-egg timers were described by Mostafa as 'my toys' and a home-made gun silencer was referred to as a water filter.

Dr Mostafa and his co-accused were all found not guilty of conspiring to cause explosions but he was jailed for four years for the illegal possession of a firearm with intent to endanger life.

He had admitted buying the Saur self-loading pistol from a notorious Manchester Moss Side gangster who was later shot dead in a gangland feud.

Security sources told the Sunday Mercury that agencies had kept an eye on his activities after he was released culminating in his arrest in Birmingham.

The Sunday Mercury has obtained an e-mail which Mostafa sent to an associate on an internet 'explosives' chat page.

The e-mail, dated August 15, 1997, reads: 'You can bet your life that the FBI, CIA, MI5, Mossad, Special Branch (Hi Inspector *****) are watching you.

'Don't be fooled by the relative calm of democracy, we are watched!

'I know because I've met them and, well, let's say had a very long discussion with them regarding explosives and other topics.

'Don't do anything stupid. Take this from someone with real experiance (sic). It's better to be safe and free than to be behind bars for 16-25 years or more.'

Throughout the six-week Birmingham trial, prosecutors admitted that they had no evidence to suggest that either defendant was a member of any terrorist organisation.

Nor did they have any idea what the intended targets were for the crudely-made devices that were eventually recovered from a unit at a Tyseley business park and a house in Barrows Road, Sparkbrook.

And yet, six years later, "no evidence to suggest that either defendant was a member of any terrorist organisation" transmogrifies into Al Qaeda.

and . . .

QUOTE ("Armardeep Bassey")
It was on November 17, 2000, in a quiet, unassuming road in inner city Birmingham, that police swooped to arrest a man who could have unleashed a wave of terror across Britain.

Moinul Abedin, a former waiter turned bomb-maker, was found hiding at a neighbour's house in Fallows Road, Sparkhill.

It was the first in a series of simultaneous raids in Birmingham and Greater Manchester.

Dr Faisal Mostafa was arrested as he waited for a train at Birmingham New Street station and his home in Stockport, Greater Manchester was searched.

A rudimentary bomb factory was uncovered during a raid on a house in Barrows Road, Sparkhill, while explosive ingredients were found at an office unit at an industrial estate in Tyseley.

The swoops were the culmination of surveillance against both Abedin and Dr Mostafa. which had started eight days earlier and involved MI5 and anti-terrorist officers from West Midlands Police. Police were acting on 'information received'.

From November 9, 2000, their movements had been monitored in detail. It was discovered Abedin had been to a house in Barrows Road, Sparkhill, on at least eight separate occasions, twice with Dr Mostafa between November 9 and November 17.

At 9.30pm on November 14, officers seized two black dustbin bags which had been placed in the street outside the house in Barrows Road.

They contained packaging for electrical items, chemical substances, including latex gloves, packaging for tools and traces of a granular powder.

On November 17 warrants were executed and the two men arrested. In the Barrows Road house officers found large quantities of the same granular powder, which forensic tests revealed to be the high explosive HMTD. Also seized at the Barrows Road property, which showed no signs of being lived in, were five home-made detonators, further ingredients to make HMTD, along with overalls, face masks, filter papers and other equipment for manufacturing home-made explosives.

Abedin, his trial was told, had bought raw materials, including weedkiller and nail varnish remover, to turn them into high-explosives. A laptop computer was discovered and found to contain middle-eastern, Islamic and American guides to bomb-making and urban warfare.

At an office unit on the Imex Business Park in Tyseley, officers found constituent parts to make HMTD, plus other substances which when combined could be made to explode.

Computer discs carried by Dr Mostafa had details on how to build HMTD, and a computer contained a file entitled Guerilla's Arsenal. Both men were detained for four days. They declined to answer questions throughout the whole period.

On November 21, both Abedin and Mr Mostafa were jointly charged with unlawfully and maliciously conspiring to cause, by an explosive substances, an explosion likely to endanger property or life.

HMTD is an extremely hazardous primary high explosive, very sensitive to ignition by flame, heat, spark and friction.

It is not known to have any legitimate commercial purpose and the Birmingham seizure was only the second recorded bulk recovery of HMTD on the UK mainland.

Abedin told the court that he and his co-defendant were not plotting to make bombs, but intended to start a fireworks business.

HMTD is described as a 'very unstable primary explosive compound.'

'a poor choice for the lesser skilled chemist'.

It is described as

Chris Sims, West Midlands Police Assistant Chief Constable (Crime), said the West Midlands, including the immediate community around Barrows Road, had been spared the effects of 70kg of volatile and potentially lethal explosives.

'Naturally, we are pleased that there were no casualties as there was every likelihood that if the explosives had been used in an attack, lives would have been lost with added considerable damage to property,' he said.

'We found enough explosives to make several very large and lethal bombs.

'This was complex and sensitive inquiry and we are pleased it has come to a successful conclusion.

'A considerable amount of high explosives has been removed from the streets of the West Midlands as a result of this investigation.

'We are satisfied that the sentences reflect the serious nature of the crime. It is very substantial and reflects the danger posed.'

Mr Sims paid tribute to the help offered by the Muslim community in Birmingham.

He said: 'The local Muslim community was very co-operative. We would also like to extend our thanks for the co-operation of the leaders of the Jami mosque in Small Heath.

'We will continue to work with national security agencies to ensure our communities remain free from any such activity.'

and . . .

QUOTE ("Armardeep Bassey")
A MAN accused of plotting to make terrorist bombs in Birmingham used a series of false identities to carry out bank and credit card scams, the city's crown court was told.

It is alleged Moinul Abedin and Faisal Mostafa stored high explosives and detonators at a terraced house in Sparkbrook. But their plan to make bombs was stopped after officers from MI5 found out what was going on and arrested the men after carrying out secret observations it was claimed.

Abedin, 27, of Fallows Road, Sparkhill and Mostafa, 38, of Stockport, Greater Manchester, have both denied conspiring to cause an explosion in the United Kingdom between October and November 2000, doing an act with intent to cause an explosion and possessing explosive substances.

Bangladeshi-born father-of-two Abedin, who had previously worked as a waiter, told the court that in 1997 he had been stopped by the police for driving around in a car without insurance. He said he was charged with offences but failed to appear in court and that as a result he lived at another address to avoid the police.

He said he subsequently met a man called Abdul Din at a car auction in Balsall Heath and that he became involved with him, buying and selling cars.

Abedin said a number of addresses and lock-up garages in Birmingham were rented in order to carry out the business because of possible problems with trading standards.

The defendant said that mail was sent to these addresses and that it was collected by others as part of a fraud.

He said those involved in the car business used different identities to avoid paying tax and VAT.

Abedin said over a period of time he became 'embroiled' in this and was involved in a scam which involved bogus driving licences.

He said that a computer, found at the address where police recovered detonators and high explosives, was used to help create the fraudulent licences.

and . . .

QUOTE ("Armardeep Bassey")
A suspected terrorist bombmaker wrote an instruction manual for extremists who wanted to produce explosives in their own home, it was alleged at Birmingham Crown Court yesterday.

Dr Faisal Mostafa had written a 50-page document detailing how to make explosives from household items which could be brought inconspicuously from High Street stores.

Dr Mostafa (38), of Stockport, Greater Manchester, and Moinul Abedin (27), of Fallows Road, Sparkhill, Birmingham, deny conspiracy to cause an explosion in the UK, an act with intent to cause of explosion and possessing explosive substances.

Under cross-examination by Colman Treacy QC, prosecuting, Dr Mostafa was questioned about the document which was stored on a computer disk at his Stockport home.

Mr Treacy said: 'This is a manual for people who intended to use explosives for no good reason - against particular targets.'

Dr Mostafa remained silent as Mr Treacy added: 'It is a handy hints for an extremist or criminal.'

The court heard that Dr Mostafa had submitted his 50-page document to a publishing house. Mr Treacy said the contents of the document contained 'recipes for a number of explosives' and 'instructions on how they could be used'. He dismissed as a fallacy Dr Mostafa's claims that his computer file was a purely informative 'draft of a book on explosives for military types'.

Mr Treacy claimed the document was not for entertainment or academic study, but to actively instruct would-be bombers.

'The sort of people who would go to these shops (High Street stores) are not military types,' said Mr Treacy.

The court heard how Dr Mostafa's document was the result of years of experimenting with explosives, which in the mid-1980s saw him 'blow off' the tips of his fingers.

Dr Mostafa claims much of the material was taken directly from military magazines which were available on general sale.

The two men were arrested after an extensive surveillance operation. The allegations relate to between October 1 and November 18, 2000.

The court heard previously that traces of high explosives were found on clothes and other items at a property in Birmingham used for plotting to make terrorist bombs.

Mr Treacy said Mostafa and Abedin used a terraced house in Sparkbrook and an industrial unit in Tyseley to store home-made bomb-making material between October and November 2000.

But security services found out what was going on and following a week-and-a-half of secret observations by police officers and officers from MI5 the two men were arrested.

Mr Treacy said significant evidence was found linking the men with the plot. Four detonators, containing explosives were recovered from the Sparkbrook address and had to be made safe by the Army.

The trial continues.

and . . .

QUOTE ("Armardeep Bassey")
A former restaurant worker accused of plotting to make bombs in Birmingham was unaware that he was at the centre of an anti-terrorist operation, the city's Crown Court was told yesterday.

Moinul Abedin also denied that a house in Sparkbrook he had rented was being used as a 'terrorist bomb factory'.

Abedin and Faisal Mostafa allegedly stored bomb making material at a terraced house in Barrows Road and a business unit in the city for terrorist purposes. But MI5 officers found out about the plot and arrested the men after carrying out secret observations.

Abedin (27) of Fallows Road, Sparkhill, and Mostafa (38), of Stockport, Greater Manchester, have both denied conspiring to cause an explosion in the United Kingdom between October and November 2000, doing an act with intent to cause an explosion and possessing explosive substances.

Abedin said that when police came to his home in November 2000 he had hidden in a bedroom next door.

He said police had tried to find him on previous occasions but this time there were a lot more officers.

Abedin said he became more and more worried for his wife and two children who did not speak English so he telephoned some friends to ask them to come down and check the situation out.

He said if he had been involved in some kind of terrorist plot with Mostafa he would have phoned him and that he would have hidden or destroyed things.

The trial continues.

and . . .

QUOTE ("Armardeep Bassey")
A MAN accused of plotting to make terrorist bombs in Birmingham bought a large amount of materials to make explosives because he and his friends wanted to open a fireworks shop, the city's crown court was told.

Moinul Abedin said the idea had come from Dr Faisal Mostafa, who knew how to make the explosive substance which they referred to as Mostafa's gunpowder.

It is alleged Abedin and Mostafa, who has a PhD in chemistry, stored high explosives and detonators at a terraced house in Sparkbrook.

But their plan to make bombs was stopped after officers from MI5 found out what was going on and arrested the men after carrying out secret observations.

Abedin, 27, of Fallows Road, Sparkhill, and Mostafa,38, of Stockport, Greater Manchester, have both denied conspiring to cause an explosion in the United Kingdom between October and November 2000, doing an act with intent to cause an explosion and possessing explosive substances.

Bangladeshi-born father-of-two Abedin said he was invited to Mostafa's home where he saw a lot of loose electronics and laboratory equipment and some gun magazines.

'He knew how to make rockets, fireworks, pyrotechnics and things. In short, he made it very clear that he had a great fascination about this. He was very enthusiastic. That was all he could talk about,' he said.

Abedin said the doctor told them it was fun, exciting and cheap to make fireworks themselves and it was suggested a profit could be made by opening a shop.

On another day, he said, he had gone with Mostafa to Small Heath Park where the doctor had unsuccessfully tried to ignite a device he had made with a wire and batteries attached.

Earlier, Abedin admitted being involved in a number of scams involving the selling of cars, the making of bogus driving licences and opening bank accounts using false identities.

He said he had rented the property at Barrows Road, where explosives and detonators were found by the police, with the intention of moving in with his wife and two children, though he never did complete the move (Proceeding)

and . . .

QUOTE ("Armardeep Bassey")
Wiring, packaging for electrical equipment, latex gloves and powder were found in refuse sacks recovered from outside a property rented by one of two men accused of plotting to cause explosions, a court heard yesterday.

Two black plastic binbags were taken from an address in Barrows Road, Sparkhill, Birmingham, after Moinul Abedin put them outside on November 15, 2000, the city's Crown Court was told. Colman Treacy QC, prosecuting, told the jury that scientists later found the gloves to have traces of the high-explosive HMTD and the wiring was similar to that used on one of five detonators found on a search of the house following Abedin's arrest. The refuse sacks also yielded price tickets for solid fuel tablets and the powder was found to be citric acid, which, the court has heard, are both components of HMTD.

Abedin (31), of Fallows Road, Sparkbrook, Birmingham, and Dr Faisal Mostafa (37), of Green Pastures, Stockport, Greater Manchester, deny conspiring to cause explosions with intent to endanger life and cause serious injury to property in the UK. They also deny one count each of doing an act with intent to cause explosions and another joint charge of possession of explosives.

Earlier, the court was told by Ibra Khan, the landlord of Barrows Road, that Abedin had rented the terraced property for pounds 95-per-week from July 2000 and told him it was for his family.

It was alleged Abedin used a false name in doing so but Mr Khan, a BT engineer from Sparkbrook, Birmingham, said under cross-examination that he may have misunderstood because he did not speak the defendant's language, Bengali.

The prosecution claim Abedin and Mostafa in fact used the property as a 'bomb factory' to make explosives from readilyavailable household goods.

Detective Constable Anthony Blood, of Staffordshire Police, told the jury that when he first went into the house in Barrows Road on November 17 after both defendants were arrested, he saw 'no evidence' of it having been lived in. But the forensic scene examiner said he and forensic explosives experts soon called in Army explosive ordnance disposal officers to take away several jars and detonators.

The items were found in a cupboard under the stairs and were later found to contain HMTD.

A grinder and a white-handled spoon with a burnt substance on them and two rolls of lead with a white substance taken from the kitchen were identified as having residue from the initiation of explosive charges, the court heard.

The trial continues.

and . . .

QUOTE ("Armardeep Bassey")
A SECURITY service officer today told a jury how a covert operation was carried out in Birmingham against two suspected terrorist bomb makers.

The officer appeared in court in a witness box screened off from the public gallery.

It is alleged Dr Faisal Mostafa and Moinul Abedin stored bomb making material at a terrorist house in Sparkbrook and also a unit at an industrial estate.

But their plot was foiled by officers from MI5 who had kept secret observations on their activities.

Mostafa (37) of Stockport, Greater Manchester and Abedin (27) of Fallows Road, Sparkbrook have both denied conspiracy to cause an explosion in the UK between October and November 2000, doing an act with intent to cause an explosion and possessing explosive substances.

The officer, who said he was part of an organisation which used to be known as MI5, said he worked for the security services as a surveillance officer and that he had the personal identification number of 747.

He confirmed that his name had been provided to the court on a confidential document in case there came a stage when it was necessary for his identity to be known.

The officer said in November 2000 he was asked to come to Birmingham to take part in a surveillance operation and that his role was as team leader.

He said he had given a briefing to other members of the team on November 9 and that they had been shown photographs of the people who were to be kept under observation.

He said Abedin had been given the code name of 'Pivoting Dancer' while Doctor Mostafa was known as 'Molten Lava.'

Earlier Mr Colman Treacy QC prosecuting said a computer seized from the home of Mostafa contained a number of articles including one on how to make home made detonators.

Files found on Mostafa's computer hard drive included one entitled 'Mujahideen Explosives Handbook' and another called 'Guerilla's Arsenal: Advanced Techniques for Making Explosives and Time Delay Bombs', he added.

and . . .

QUOTE ("Armardeep Bassey")
Security services foiled a Birmingham-based plot to cause explosions in Britain using home-made terrorist devices, a court heard yesterday.

Moinul Abedin and Dr Faisal Mostafa stored chemicals in a rented house and an industrial unit in the city. They were arrested following an undercover operation by MI5, Birmingham Crown Court was told.

Colman Treacy QC, prosecuting, told the court there was no indication the duo, both Muslims of Bangladeshi origin, were part of a terrorist organisation. There was also no indication of their intended target.

Abedin (31), of Fallows Road, Sparkbrook, Birmingham, and Mostafa (37), of Green Pastures, Stockport, Greater Manchester, deny the allegations.

They face a joint charge of conspiracy to cause explosions with intent to endanger life and cause serious injury to property in the UK.

They face one count each of doing an act with intent to cause explosions and another joint charge of possession of explosives.

The allegations are said to have occurred between October 1 and November 18, 2000.

The men were arrested in Birmingham on November 17, 2000 following undercover observations which showed both men visiting two properties in the city.

Mr Treacy said: 'We say that in October and November 2000, these two defendants joined together in order to make and create explosive substances and devices to be used against people and property or both.

'Fortunately, their plans didn't come to fruition. The devices and the materials they were preparing were never actually used.

'What these men were planning, and would have carried out had they not been checked, can properly be described as terrorism.'

The court heard Abedin and Mostafa, a chemistry graduate who holds a Phd, used a rented terraced house in Barrows Road, Sparkhill, and a unit at the IMEX business park in Tyseley to store materials and equipment.

Surveillance showed Abedin putting two bin liners outside the house in Barrows Road on November 15, which were then seized and examined.

The bags contained information relating to the IMEX unit, vehicles he was using at the time, packaging for tools, chemical substances and electronic devices and discarded surgical gloves.

The latex gloves had traces of the high explosive HMTD - hexanethylene triperoxide diamine - plus fingerprints and DNA belonging to Abedin, it was alleged.

Security services arrested Abedin two days later and found him hiding in the loft of a neighbouring property to his Fallows Road home. Mostafa was picked up at New Street station.

Examination of their clothes revealed traces of HMTD and Mostafa was discovered to be carrying a bag containing latex gloves, also found to have the explosive on them, and four floppy disks with information about making HMTD.

Traces of the bomb material were discovered in three vehicles allegedly used by Abedin as well as keys for the three properties and an empty tub of weedkiller, which can be used as a component part of a home-made bomb, the court was told. Mr Treacy said a search of the Barrows Road property found a quantity of HMTD in a jar in the living room and five detonators containing the substance under the stairs.

Army specialists were called in to carry out controlled explosions to destroy all but one of the devices.

Also found at the property were overalls, large quantities of surgical gloves, packages for chemicals including sodium chlorate (weedkiller), sulphuric acid, sulphur and lead azide, plus tools and face masks.

There were documents from a variety of sources. 'Some, in very broad terms, would appear to have Islamic origins, some have Middle Eastern origins and there is one which appears to be an American one,' said Mr Treacy.

'They represent all shades of opinion in the terrorist world. They are a handy guidebook to the making of bombs, explosives and similar items.'

A search of the IMEX unit unearthed large quantities of the constituent part of HMTD, the court heard.

Abedin, who allegedly rented the office under an assumed name, was linked to it from a mobile phone number given to the letting agents.

Traces of HMTD and other material were also discovered at Abedin's home address, a room rented by Mostafa at Coventry Road, Small Heath, Birmingham, and his Stockport home.

At the Stockport property, a file containing a 'terrorist handbook' of publications with titles such as Guerilla's Arsenal and Middle Eastern Terrorist Bomb Design was found with material relating to the Birmingham addresses.

Mr Treacy said Abedin refused to comment in interviews with police but Mostafa made an 'unsolicited' comment while with an officer in the fingerprint room.

Reading the officer's note of the comment, the prosecutor said: 'Mr Faisal made the following comment, 'I have been a fool. You'd think I'd know better after the last time.

'I've got a lovely family and I do this for someone I hardly know and now I could go to prison. This is very serious. He's used me because of my knowledge. What do you think I should do?'

Mr Treacy alleged the comment referred to an occasion in 1996 when Mostafa was tried and acquitted at Manchester Crown Court of the same conspiracy to commit explosions charge.

'We say that the fact he'd faced the same charge is relevant, even though he'd been acquitted,' he told the jury.

Mostafa later told police he become innocently involved with Abedin after teaching his brother in his job at a mosque in Birmingham.

The case continues.

and finally . . .

QUOTE ("Armardeep Bassey")


FOR a suspect codenamed 'molten lava', Dr Faisal Mostafa was a remarkably cool customer when eventually snared by his long-standing adversaries at MI5.

After all, the Phd chemistry graduate had seen it all before six years ago when security service officers raided his Stockport home and recovered what they claimed was bomb-making material and firearms.

But when tried at Manchester Crown Court, the self-confessed explosives enthusiast was cleared of conspiring to cause explosions.

Last week history appeared to repeat itself when a jury at ...


Ring any bells?

So there it is Ms North. Wake up and do some research. Blowback was officially denied by the fit up that was Moinul Abedin in 2000. It just took 6 years to make the link.

An ace in the hole is worth a lot, when you need to pull it out eh.

Enquiring about the trial transcripts, I was told that I would have to seek the permission of the trial judge, as the case was "sensitive".

Maybe, since you have the government's ear, you could pop along and ask Jonathan Evans himself?

If you do, ask him about Molten Lava aka by MI5 as Dr Faisal Mostafa too, won't you.

There's a love....

PS Ms North: If you really want to talk to the horses mouth you can contact Mr Abedin here and ask him yourself.

Be sure to post his response won't you.

If you get one. . .

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