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cmain

Posted: Jun 19 2006, 09:59 PM

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My MP has received the following letter from Home Office minister Tony McNulty. The letter is dated 14th June 2006.

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Dear _MP_,

Thank you for your letter of 18th May 2006 addressed to the Home Secretary, enclosing correspondence from _cmain_. In his letter he identifies a number of areas which he believes are inaccurate or incomplete in the official report on 7th July last year.

The Account draws together the information across Government and from the police and intelligence agencies in order to establish clearly the events leading up the (sic) 7 July bombings. It is intended to reflect what is known about the persons responsible for carrying out the attacks and how and why they came to do what they did.

The narrative draws together the information across Government and from the police and intelligence agencies in order to clearly establish what we know about the events leading up the (sic) 7 July bombings.

Please pass on to _cmain_ that his concerns have been noted.

Tony

BUILDING A SAFE, JUST AND TOLERANT SOCIETY

No, I haven't mis-typed the quote, the third paragraph in the letter is almost identical to the first sentence of the second paragraph.

The two particular examples I mentioned in my original letter were that no train left Luton for Kings Cross at 0740 (contrary to both the narrative and the Home Secretary's statement to the House of Commons), and that the 0721 CCTV photograph contradicts the statement that the men passed through the ticket barriers at 0715. Contrary to Mr McNulty's letter, these are not merely my personal beliefs but publicly documented facts (Thameslink for the train times, Met Police for the 0721 timestamp and Hansard for the Home Secretary's statement).

As you can imagine, I find this letter totally unsatisfactory, and I will pursue the matter further, particularly emphasising that the Home Secretary has misled Parliament in his statement.

My MP's comment on the letter was:

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I persist in my view that there is no substitute for a full public inquiry and that is what my colleagues and I [ie the Conservatives] will continue to press for.

The Antagonist	Posted: Jun 23 2006, 11:24 PM
Antagonista Group: Admin Posts: 8,643 Member No.: 1 Joined: 25-November 05	A little too much haste with the cut and paste, Mr McNulty. It's come to something when they can't even be bothered to be coherent any more.

cmain	Posted: Jun 28 2006, 08:32 PM
Group: J7 Forum Team Posts: 1,094 Member No.: 16 Joined: 19-January 06	Jetstar28 got a very similar reply, without the cut and paste error. For him, they decided to boldly go with the split infinitive variant of "to clearly establish".

Bridget	Posted: Jun 28 2006, 08:59 PM
Group: J7 Admins Posts: 10,869 Member No.: 2 Joined: 26-November 05	The reply from the HO to Jetstar28 has been placed on the website with his pertinent comments. http://www.julyseventh.co.uk/july-7-letter...d-response.html What a great kid.

Slightly Bruised Man

Posted: Jul 4 2006, 04:30 PM

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Jetstar28 got the same reply, but without the copy and paste error.

I rather think that is slightly incorrect, see the first lines of the second and third paragraphs.

Pathetic I agree.

cmain

Posted: Jul 24 2006, 09:43 PM

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The latest instalment (undated):

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Dear cmain,

Thank you for your letter of 27 June 2006 raising further concerns about the Official Account of the London Bombings and in particular the time the train departed from Luton station on the morning of 7 July 2005.

As you may be aware, the Home Secretary made a statement on 11 July 2006 and a (sic) part of that statement he explained that police have now informed us that it is indeed incorrect that the bombers (sic) left Luton station on a train at 07.40am. The train in fact left Luton station at 07.25 am. It did, however, arrive at Kings Cross at 08.23 am, as recorded in the Official Account. Althought this does not appear to affect anything else in the Official Account it is nevertheless an error. The Home Secretary has asked the police for a full report on how the discrepancy came about and we will ensure the Official Account is amended.

I hope this addresses your query.

Yours sincerely,

Crime Reduction and Community Safety Group

It addresses one of my two queries, so I have written back to remind them about the contradiction between passing throught the ticket barriers at 0715 and being outside the station at 0721.

i_believe

Posted: Jul 25 2006, 11:16 AM

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What about the statements from the passengers on the (non-existent) 07:40 train? They obviously couldn't have seen the alleged bombers.

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07.40: The London King�s Cross train leaves Luton station. There are conflicting accounts of their behaviour on the train. Some witnesses report noisy conversations, another believes he saw 2 of them standing silently by a set of train doors. The 4 stood out a bit from usual commuters due to their luggage and casual clothes, but not enough to cause suspicion. This was the beginning of the summer tourist period and Luton Station serves Luton Airport.

Are they now going to go and get statements from passengers who were on the 07:25?

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