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Students on terror charges From the archive, first published Monday 8th Aug 2005.
Three Brighton students charged under anti-terror laws for failing to disclose information about the failed London bombings on July 21 have been remanded in custody.
Under tight security, Shadi Abdel Gadir, 22, and Omar Nagmeloin Almagboul, 20, both of Dyke Road, Brighton, and Mohamed Kabashi, 23, of Mary Magdalene Road, Brighton, appeared at Horseferry Road Magistrates Court in central London on Saturday.
The case against the men was adjourned until August 11 when they are due to appear at Bow Street Magistrates Court.
The three, who were all arrested in Brighton on July 31, were charged under Section 38 of the Terrorism Act 2000.
They are alleged to have had information that might be of "material assistance in securing the apprehension, prosecution or conviction" of suspected failed Shepherd's Bush attacker Hussain Osman.
Two of the men were students at the University of Brighton but left before finishing their courses.
Shadi Abdel Gadir was studying for a foundation course but left in April while Omar Nagmeloin Almagboul was studying electrical engineering but quit in March.
A spokeswoman for the university said no one by the name of Mohamed Kabashi had studied there.
Strange the charge of having information that might be of "material assistance in securing the apprehension, prosecution or conviction" of suspected failed Shepherd's Bush attacker Hussain Osman.
Osman had already been arrested on 29th July 2005 in Rome, Italy.
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Hi amirrortotheenemy, thanks for all your posts on the blog and the wealth of information you've posted on the forum.
Is it possible to do a 'reverse-lookup' on the registered details for an address - i.e. the flats in Scotia Road? If memory serves, there was some confusion between who lived at what number and, again if memory serves, de Menezes was reported to be living at number 17.
Which leads to another question that suggests de Menezes (apparently mistaken for a failed sucide bomber) wasn't followed from the flats (quite apart from his apparently being allowed to get on and off a bus, enter a tube station and get on a train); how could anyone watching a shared front door, behind which at least 21 flats exist, possibly know from which flat behind that front door a particular person had exited?
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Is it possible to do a 'reverse-lookup' on the registered details for an address - i.e. the flats in Scotia Road? If memory serves, there was some confusion between who lived at what number and, again if memory serves, de Menezes was reported to be living at number 17.
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QUOTE (Sinclair @ Aug 22 2006, 06:09 PM)
I read (Who Killed John Lennon? by Fenton Bresler) that the CIA back in the 70's 80's, used the network of the YMCA's to recruit patsies/runners for operations. Such people who are new in a country & to a highly urban area, (where faces are not known &/or easily forgotten) can be coerced, by perceived offers of trust/assistance, to do a range of activities......
These young men/women do not appear to be hardened muslim fanatics, rather tricked lost souls..........ent on?
Muktar Sayid was living at 16d Neville Road in 2002, which is the home of:
NACRO - North London Education Project
The project provides accommodation in the boroughs of Hackney & Islington for 33 ex-offenders aged 17-65 who are interested in education or training. 3 houses: 6 women, 13 men, mixed (3 women + 9 men) and a 2-bed flat for men. Referrals self or agency, us
Address:
NACRO - North London Education Project 16 Nevill Road N16 8SR
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Which of the above was (supposedly) under surveillance in the flats at Scotia Road from which Jean Charles de Menezes was followed?
From upthread on Page 2.......
This is important, I think.
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I found this article from a link on newsmine.org:
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The Times July 26, 2005
Vanishing bombers and the mystery 'safe house' By Dominic Kennedy, Adam Luck and Daniel McGrory
DETECTIVES leading Britain’s biggest manhunt made a desperate plea for public help last night as it emerged that there have been no sightings of the four suicide bombers since they fled five days ago. Police named two of the men and released new pictures. Five people are being questioned but none is believed to figure strongly in the investigation.
None of the four main suspects has been seen since 1.05pm on Thursday, minutes after the bungled attacks. It emerged last night that the four attended Finsbury Park mosque, North London and that two received benefits to rent a council flat.
A Populus poll for The Times showed that 74 per cent of the public believe that terrorist bombings and scares are likely to be part of life in London in future. There is support for deporting foreign Muslims who encourage extremism while 70 per cent favour police powers to hold terrorist suspects for up to 90 days without charge.
Police know that three of the bombers assembled at Stockwell Underground station before 12.25pm last Thursday. Scotland Yard released a remarkable photograph of an unnamed suspect staring up as he stands on a Tube train waiting for his bomb to blow up.
The device made a harmless pop like a champagne cork before the train pulled into Oval station. At 12.35pm the man ran towards the exit, pursued by members of the public.
He ran towards the centre of Brixton, throwing away his top with the “New York” logo in Gosling Way, and was last seen in Tindall Street at 12.45pm. Hundreds of officers have been checking the bombers’ known addresses and questioning associates. Police believe that they are at a prearranged safe house in London and fear that they could be preparing more attacks.
Officers spent last night searching the flat at Curtis House, a 13-storey block on a council estate in Bounds Green, North London, used by two of the bombers.
Police believe that this is where the devices were assembled. They were packed in clear plastic 6.25-litre food canisters made in India, which are sold at only 100 outlets in Britain.
Scotland Yard named two of the suspects after previous appeals for help drew a disappointing response.
They are the bus bomber, Muktar Said-Ibrahim, 27, thought to be Eritrean and who also uses the name Muktar Mohammed-Said, and Yasin Hassan Omar, a Somali, the Warren Street bomber. Both are thought to be asylum-seekers.
Omar, who was last seen vaulting a barrier at Warren Street station, has been the registered occupant of the flat since 1999.
Ibrahim, who was last seen in Hackney Road, East London, after his failed attempt to blow up a No 26 bus, shared it with him for the past two years.
Omar, received £88 a week in housing benefit to pay for the council property and also received income support, immigration officials say. Police are close to confirming the identity of the other two suspects and are trying to discover whether any of them attended any overseas training camps.
Officers were also understood last night to be interviewing Ibrahim’s father, who lives in Stanmore, North London.
Sammy Jones, a mother of two, said that she recognised the men from photographs shown to her by detectives. “The man who I now know is called Muktar used to have a big bushy beard but he then shaved that off,” she said. Mrs Jones, 33, said that the group were seen carrying heavy cardboard boxes into Flat 58 on the ninth floor. Police are understood to have removed a fridge, possibly used to store the explosives.
Another neighbour, Vance Noor, 18, said that the bombers used to play for a Sunday football team of fellow Somalis.
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I thought that this info should be put on this 21/7 section of the forum (originally posted in ->July 22nd: The Murder of Jean Charles de Menezes->For whom was Jean Charles working?
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FIFTH MAN CHARGED OVER 21/7 BOMBINGS Evening Standard (London), Aug 8, 2005 by RICHARD EDWARDS
[Manfo Kwaku] Asiedu was charged after police discovered a suspicious rucksack in bushes at Little Wormwood Scrubs on 23 July. Asiedu was arrested in Finchley on 26 July.
It is strange that, with Asieddu's arrest on 26th July 2005, that this Times report of July 30, 2005: Captured - all five 21/7 bomb suspects does not mention Manfo Kwaku Asiedu, but mentions the name of Whabi Mohammad, 22, in association with the 'fifth bomber:
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The Times July 30, 2005
Captured - all five 21/7 bomb suspects By Daniel McGrory, Stewart Tendler and Sean O’Neill
EVERY suspected member of the July 21 suicide bombing team was under arrest last night after an extraordinary day of police operations stretching from a West London housing estate to the backstreets of Rome.
While police are jubilant following a series of successful armed raids across London they believe that the masterminds behind the London terror campaign are still at large.
The suspected July 21 suicide bombing team will be questioned today in the hope that they will disclose the identity of the bomb builders and planners behind last week’s failed attacks. It is also hoped that they know details of the deadly attacks on London’s transport system on July 7 that killed 52 innocent people.
Scotland Yard now believes that it has the four known failed suicide bombers in custody and has also arrested the mystery “fifth man”, alleged to be Whabi Mohammad, 22, the brother of Ramzi Mohammad, held in connection with the failed bomb at Oval station.
Three suspects were arrested in West London while a fourth man, thought to be the Shepherd’s Bush Tube bomber, was arrested by police in Rome acting on information from Scotland Yard.
After announcing the arrests, Peter Clarke, head of Scotland Yard’s anti-terrorist branch, said: “We must not be complacent. The threat remains and is very real.”
The successful arrests ended fears that the men might use what explosive they had left to kill themselves, their captors or the families living alongside their hideouts.
Senior officers said that they were astonished and relieved that the suspects were all taken alive.
There was a scare for police trying to grab two of the bombers, who were at the same flat, when two children wandered into their line of fire.
Seconds later the two men appeared naked on the balcony of their fourth-floor apartment and surrendered without a struggle.
Italian police said that the last of the men to be picked up yesterday, Hussain Osman, a father of three, did not resist arrest. They say that he was trying to escape the intensive search and was not planning to stage attacks in Rome.
There is an investigation under way to discover how the Somali-born man who tried to blow up a train at Shepherds Bush managed to slip out of the UK when his photograph was at every port and airport.
He is believed to have gone first to Paris two days ago then on to Milan and finally Rome where it is understood his brother lives.
In a joint intelligence operation between Rome and London, agents were led to the address by monitoring the mobile telephone of the bomber’s brother. Police refused to say if Hussain Osman had been in contact with members of his cell before yesterday’s raids.
After their day of success, Scotland Yard will now have to concentrate on the dangers still facing the public. They still need to establish whether there are yet more explosives hidden by the cell and the identity of the mastermind.
The identity of the bombmaker remains a mystery, so too the quartermaster who obtained the explosive materials and other equipment needed by the cell.
Questioning of these suspects should also provide details of how the two cells behind the attacks on London’s transport system are linked.
The suspect bomber arrested in Birmingham earlier in the week, Yasin Omar, has already provided police with some information.
He is being held at Paddington Green top-security police station where the three men captured in London yesterday were taken. They are all being held separately.
It is believed that some members of their families are already in custody.
Relatives are understood to have given vital information that helped to end Britain’s biggest manhunt without further loss of life.
Yesterday’s raids came less than 24 hours after Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, promised police watchdogs that his officers were closing in on the would-be bombers.
On Thursday night [28th July] SO13, the anti-terrorist branch, called in hundreds of officers for a top-level briefing on progress in the investigation.
The most dramatic capture came as police grabbed two of the runaway suspects in Notting Hill, West London, and it was seen unfolding live on television.
It was a call from a member of the public at 9.30am [Friday 29th July] that Scotland Yard said “confirmed the intelligence that this was the building we wanted”.
Police marksmen surrounded a flat on a West London estate as fellow officers tried to evacuate as many homes as they could.
After days of raids and arrests across the capital and in Birmingham, the breakthrough for police came yesterday morning [Friday 29th July] when officers are believed to have traced a telephone call to a hideout at Block K Dalgarno Gardens.
Terrified neighbours could clearly hear officers shouting for the occupants to strip to their underwear and surrender.
Tear-gas canisters had been fired into the property, which is understood to have been barricaded.
Inside was Muktar SaidIbrahim, 27, who is suspected of trying to detonate a nail bomb on a bus, and Ramzi Mohammad, the failed Oval bomber.
Police commanders realised that they could not risk a long stand-off. Terrorists in Madrid blew themselves up when police stormed the building.
Officers called both men by their first names but repeatedly warned them: “You must do as we say.” After a two-hour stand-off both gave up without a fight.
A witness said that they heard one of the men say: “I’ve got rights.”
Senior figures involved in the investigation believe that the five men may have lost their nerve after their failure on July 21. It is understood that the men in the cell began fighting about their next move and that two of them decided to attempt to escape rather than make another terror strike.
Barely a mile away at Tavistock Crescent, police are understood to have caught the fifth bomber, who had discarded his device in a nearby park before he could detonate it. He, too, gave up without a struggle.
Two women were seized at Liverpool Street station in London. Commuters said that the two — both thought to be of Somali origin — were seized by police and wrestled to the ground as they tried to buy tickets for the express service to Stansted airport.
It was a surprise announcement from Giuseppe Pisanu, Italy’s Interior Minister, that revealed that the last of the known suspects — Hussain Osman — a naturalised British citizen, had been picked up in Rome. Scotland Yard will seek his swift extradition under the European Extradition Warrant that came into effect in Italy only on Thursday.
According to initial reports, anti-terrorist units moved in on the suspect in a suburb of the capital. The minister said that the operation was continuing. He said that the arrest was the result of international collaboration and that the operation was “truly worthy of praise”.
Once in Rome, Hussain contacted his brother, the owner of an internet point near the central Termini rail station. Police also searched several homes in Rome in connection with the investigation.
The suspect was arrested with his brother at about 5.30pm local time in the Tor Pignatara district. He was questioned at the central police station, probably by the head of the anti-terrorism pool of prosecutors.
COUNTDOWN - Friday 29th July 2005
11am Police mount armed operation in Tavistock Crescent, West London. A simultaneous raid is carried out at flats owned by the Peabody Trust in Dalgarno Gardens, close to Wormwood Scrubs prison
1.45pm Police announce a number of arrests in the operations
1.54pm Two women held by armed police at Liverpool Street station
2.45pm Two suspected July 21 bombers are among those held
3.20pm Police say two men were held at one address and a third at a second address after raids in West London
5.25pm Hussain Osman is arrested in Rome. He was alleged to be the Shepherd’s Bush terrorist
7.00pm Muktar Said-Ibrahim, 27, who allegedly tried to blow up a No 26 bus in Hackney, on July 21, identifies himself to police. The second man held in Dalgardo Gardens is Ramzi Mohammad, the alleged Oval Tube bomber
8.00pm a man arrested in Tavistock Crescent is named as Whabi Mohammad, 22. He is the brother of Ramzi Mohammad and is alleged to be the fifth bomber
So the above news report of 30th July states the 5 main suspects as Whabi Mohammad Yasin Omar Hamdi Isaac Muktar Said Ibrahim Ramzi Mohammad
Whereas, we are now told the five main suspects are: 1. Ibrahim Muktar Said (suspected over the attempt to bomb a No. 26 bus at Shoreditch) 2. Ramzi Mohammed (suspect in the failed attempt to bomb the Tube near the Oval) 3. Yassin Hassan Omar (suspect in the bomb attempt on the Tube near Warren Street) 4. Hussain Osman (suspect in the bomb attempt on the Shepherd’s Bush Tube station) 5. Manfu Kwaku Asiedu (the alleged fifth bomber charged with conspiracy to murder London Transport passengers).
These 5 No. above will be in court first (Trial 1 on 11th Jan 2007), along with: 6. Adel Yahya AHMED (arrived in UK from Addis Ababa, Ethiopia in Dec 05, reportedly out of the UK since June 05)
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