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someoneisatthedoor
Posted: Feb 20 2008, 12:19 PM





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Sure, that's the story that I've just found on the Daily Mail and Evening Standard websites when I just googled the issue.

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Bridget
Posted: Jul 8 2009, 09:00 AM





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Warped and blackened by the blast, this is the Piccadilly Line carriage where Jermaine Lindsay's bomb detonated at Russell Square station. A forensics officer in white rubber gloves inches his way along the floor - itself sheared away in the blast, exposing metal beams - searching for the smallest of clues

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Bridget
Posted: Jul 8 2009, 10:44 PM





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^ The bottom left hand side where we are told this explosion occurred (standing area by the 2nd set of double doors):

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Bridget
Posted: Jul 9 2009, 04:37 PM





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From here which is discussing the recent release of the Piccadilly Line train image:
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July 8th, 2009 at 3:09 pm

I have had this photo for a while, an interesting thing about it is that it was released in the US and not republished in the UK until relatively recently. I always interpreted it as evidence for bombs under the carriages as I find the downward curvature suspiciously similar to the effect one would cause by ‘beasting’ (sledge-hammmering) protrusions downward, rather than the application of explosive force, which I would have expected to cause more dramatic effects akin to the spiral ribbonning on the the part sticking upward that has clearly undergone intense heat.

People also keep forgetting that these supposed backpack bombs would not be mounted, ie. fixed down, but free standing, which would suggest that the explosion should have been more evenly distributed throughout the carriage and not focused. That said I’m no expert, and am always a bit worried about researching explosives since that in itself is a crime under the 2005 Prevention of Terrorism Act, however there are major questions about the nature of these explosives, and inconsistencies with their effects and being home-made.

We know that ABC published the pictures of the Luton car bombs, has anyone come across discussion of the Piccadilly Line train image (or any other images for that matter) being released in the US but not here?
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amirrortotheenemy
Posted: Jul 13 2009, 08:54 PM





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QUOTE (Bridget @ Feb 20 2008, 01:12 PM)
A point I made several times to Rachel North on another forum, and failed to get any kind of reasonable response:

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What do you make of George's testimony to the GLA Review Committee? He was by the second set of double doors and, like yourself, didn't know that a bomb had exploded on the train:
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'George' p127:

There were people screaming. There were people saying, ‘Get the doors open. We will smash the doors.’ Somebody tried to get the door open where I had my back up against, but they soon gave up because I think the pressure was still on the actual door mechanism, and they gave up. They did get it slightly open; there was a slight change to the air that was coming in, and then they gave up.

What doors would they be trying to force open? Why would there be 'a slight change to the air that was coming in' through a small crack in the door when we can see there are no windows or doors left on the back of the Piccadilly Line train in this image?

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The temperature hit 140f (60c), partly because they were using oxyacetylene cutting gear and partly because they had to block the tunnel's ventilation to prevent clues being blown away by gusts.

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amirrortotheenemy
Posted: May 1 2010, 11:59 AM





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Pages 15 & 24 show images we may not have seen before

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The Terrorist Attacks on London Underground on Thursday 7th July 2005
Andy Barr
Network Co-ordination Manager
London Underground


Higher resolution images can be obtain by downloading the PDF Image Extraction Wizard 1.1
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Bridget
Posted: May 1 2010, 12:44 PM





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QUOTE (amirrortotheenemy @ May 1 2010, 11:59 AM)
Pages 15 & 24 show images we may not have seen before

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http://www.apm.org.uk/download.asp?fileID=1360


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The Terrorist Attacks on London Underground on Thursday 7th July 2005
Andy Barr
Network Co-ordination Manager
London Underground


Higher resolution images can be obtain by downloading the PDF Image Extraction Wizard 1.1

Thanks for the pdf image download - I tried it but got the image on p15 in 'strips' - but, that image appears in a random way in the pdf - it doesn't come under the site headings. Electrical wires that have 'burnt out', doesn't look like damage caused by the explosions, and certainly doesn't inspire confidence in travelling on the tube!

If someone can grab this image it would be great to have a copy.
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