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Covert preaching of banned cleric A banned cleric is still preaching support for terrorism to young British Muslims by appearing incognito on the internet, the BBC has learned.
The joint investigation by File on 4 and Newsnight has found Omar Bakri Mohammed broadcasts hatred for the UK using a variety of pseudonyms.
He was excluded from the UK last August on the grounds that his presence was "not conducive to the public good."
On a recent broadcast he said the 7/7 London bombers were "in paradise."
The BBC investigation has also revealed how young British Muslims are being radicalised by extremists on university campuses and in street gangs.
Omar Bakri Mohammed ran the radical al-Muhajiroun group from Tottenham, north London, until it was proscribed last year.
The then Home Secretary Charles Clarke barred him from returning to Britain while he was out of the country in August 2005.
But the BBC has learned that he broadcasts online most evenings - a voice recognition expert confirmed that the voice was that of the radical preacher.
In one broadcast he praised the 2005 London bombers by saying: "How can you condemn those great men - it's not something so bad, something so good. Something so good to be involved in."
A chatroom has been infiltrated by a group called Vigil, which aims to disrupt radical groups and report back to police and security services.
During an online question and answer session a Vigil member asked Omar Bakri Mohammed if Dublin Airport should be a terrorist target because US troops transit there on the way to Iraq.
The cleric replied: "Hit the target and hit it very hard, that issue should be understood. Your situation there is quite difficult therefore the answer lies in your question."
Vigil claims the UK authorities have been slow to deal with the broadcasts.
One academic, who is a member of Vigil, contacted the Metropolitan Police's anti-terrorist hotline saying he had more than 100 hours of material from the chatroom only to be told to contact his local police station.
"The anti-terrorist office showed no sense of urgency to get this information," he said.
Home Office Minister Tony McNulty said he would examine the details of the claim.
He also said: "Glorifying terrorism on the internet is an offence and we are trying to deal with it and keep up with it.
Mr McNulty added: "We do have to keep these things under review."
Hear the full story on Radio 4: File on 4 Tue 14 Nov 2000GMT, repeated Sun 12 Nov 1700GMT or online at the File on 4 website
See the full story on BBC Two: Newsnight 2230GMT or online at the Newsnight website
Four young British Muslims in their twenties - a social worker, an IT specialist, a security guard and a financial adviser - occupy a table at a fast-food chicken restaurant in Luton. Perched on their plastic chairs, wolfing down their dinner, they seem just ordinary young men. Yet out of their mouths pour heated words of revolution.
"As far as I'm concerned, when they bomb London, the bigger the better," says Abdul Haq, the social worker. "I know it's going to happen because Sheikh bin Laden said so. Like Bali, like Turkey, like Madrid - I pray for it, I look forward to the day."
"Pass the brown sauce, brother," says Abu Malaahim, the IT specialist, devouring his chicken and chips.
"I agree with you, brother," says Abu Yusuf, the earnest-looking financial adviser sitting opposite. "I would like to see the Mujahideen coming into London and killing thousands, whether with nuclear weapons or germ warfare. And if they need a safehouse, they can stay in mine - and if they need some fertiliser [for a bomb], I'll tell them where to get it."
His friend, Abu Musa, the security guard, smiles radiantly. "It will be a day of joy for me," he adds, speaking with a slight lisp.
As they talk, a man with a bushy beard, dressed in a jacket emblazoned with the word "Jihad", stands and watches over them, handing around cups of steaming hot coffee. His real name is Ishtiaq Alamgir, but he goes by his adopted name, Sayful Islam, meaning "Sword of Islam". He is the 24-year-old leader of the Luton branch of al-Muhajiroun, an extremist Muslim group with about 800 members countrywide, who regard Osama bin Laden as their hero.
Until recently, nobody took the fanatical beliefs of al-Muhajiroun too seriously, believing that a British-based group so brazenly "out there" could not be involved in something as "underground" as terrorism. The group is led by the exiled Saudi, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammad, from his base in north London. Yesterday, in a magazine article, Bakri warned that several radical groups are poised to strike in London.
For all its inflammatory rhetoric, al-Muhajiroun has never been linked to actual violence. Yet, with the discovery last month of half-a-tonne of ammonium nitrate fertiliser - the same explosive ingredient used in the Bali and Turkey terror attacks - and with the arrest of eight young British Muslims in London and the South-East, including six in Luton, extremist groups such as al-Muhajiroun are under the spotlight like never before.
Detectives fear that the "enemy within", the homegrown extremists leading apparently normal lives in suburbia, now pose the greatest threat to security in Britain. Sayful and his friends fit this "homegrown" profile: three were born here, two came as young children from Pakistan; all were educated in local Luton schools; and they grew up in families of full employment - one of their fathers is a retired local businessman, two are engineers, and two worked in the local Vauxhall car plant.
The question is: how worried should we be? Is al-Muhajiroun nothing more than a repository for disaffected Muslim youths who have adopted an extreme interpretation of Islam - perhaps to cock a snook at the white establishment - but who are essentially posturing? Or does the group also perform a more sinister function, sucking in alienated young men and brainwashing the more impressionable into becoming future suicide bombers?
Although none of the arrested Muslims - aged 17 to 32 - appear to be current al-Muhajiroun members, rumours have circulated of informal links to the group. Moreover, parents of the arrested men have spoken anxiously of the "radicalising influence" of al-Muhajiroun militants who " corrupt" their children at mosques.
Nowhere has this public confrontation between radicals and moderates been more apparent than in Luton, which has the highest density of Muslims in the South-East - 28,000 out of a total population of 140,000 - and has long been regarded as a hotbed of extremism.
Sayful Islam, for one, is particularly proud of his contribution to Luton's hardline reputation. His exploits include covering the town with " Magnificent 19" posters glorifying the 11 September suicide bombers. "When I joined al-Muhajiroun four years ago, there were five local members," he says. "Now there are more than 50 and hundreds more support us."
The strange thing is that four years ago, Sayful Islam was a jeans-clad student completing his degree in business economics at Middlesex University in Hendon, north London.
The son of a British Rail engineer who came to this country from Pakistan, Sayful grew up in a moderate, middle-class Muslim family in Luton. At the local Denbigh High School, he is remembered as one of the smartest kids, and was selected to attend a science masterclass at Cambridge University. He would go on to marry, have two children and find work as an accountant for the Inland Revenue in Luton. He was thoroughly uninterested in politics.
THEN he met Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammad at a local event. Within two years, he had swapped his decently paid job as an accountant for an unpaid one as a political agitator. What turned him into an extremist? And how far is he prepared to go to achieve his aims?
Prior to seeing the group at the fastfood restaurant, Sayful meets me at his semi-detached rented home in Bury Park, Luton's Muslim neighbourhood. He no longer works, even though he is able-bodied, he admits, preferring instead to claim housing benefit and jobseeker's allowance. He smiles sheepishly and says the irony is not lost on him that the British state is supporting him financially, even as he plots to "overthrow it".
"I made a decision that I wanted to follow what Islam really said," Sayful begins, sitting on his sofa in his thowb (a traditional robe) and bare feet. "I went to listen to all the local imams, but I found their portrayal of Islam was too secularised. When I heard Sheikh Omar [the leader] of al-Muhajiroun speak, it was pure Islam, with no compromise. I found that appealing.
"At the same time," continues Sayful, "wars were happening in Bosnia, Kosovo, Chechnya, Afghanistan. People were being oppressed simply because they were Muslim. Although I had never experienced racism in the UK, it opened the eyes of a lot of Muslims, including mine."
But it was the events of 11 September that crystallised Sayful's worldview. "When I watched those planes go into the Twin Towers, I felt elated," he says. "That magnificent action split the world into two camps: you were either with Islam and al Qaeda, or with the enemy. I decided to quit my job and commit myself full-time to al-Muhajiroun." Now he does not consider himself British. "I am a Muslim living in Britain, and I give my allegiance only to Allah."
According to Sayful, the aim of al-Muhajiroun ("the immigrants") is nothing less than Khilafah - "the worldwide domination of Islam". The way to achieve this, he says, is by Jihad, led by Bin Laden. "I support him 100 per cent."
Does that support extend to violent acts of terrorism in the UK?
"Yes," he replies, unequivocally. "When a bomb attack happens here, I won't be against it, even if it kills my own children. Islam is clear: Muslims living in lands that are occupied have the right to attack their invaders.
"Britain became a legitimate target when it sent troops to Iraq. But it is against Islam for me to engage personally in acts of terrorism in the UK because I live here. According to Islam, I have a covenant of security with the UK, as long as they allow us Muslims to live here in peace."
HE USES the phrase "covenant of security" constantly. He attempts to explain. "If we want to engage in terrorism, we would have to leave the country," he says. "It is against Islam to do otherwise." Such a course of action, he says, he is not prepared to undertake. This is why, Sayful claims, it is consistent, and not cowardly, for him to espouse the rhetoric of terrorism, the "martyrdom-operations", while simultaneouslylimiting himself to nonviolentactions such as leafletting outside Luton town hall.
He denies any link between al-Muhajiroun and the Muslims arrested in the recent police raids. But, as I later discover at the fastfood restaurant, not everyone attaching themselves, however loosely, to al-Muhajiroun draws the same line. Two members of the group - Abu Yusuf, the financial adviser, and Abu Musa, the security guard - scorn al-Muhajiroun as "too moderate".
"I am freelance," says Abu Yusuf, fixing me with his piercing brown eyes. What does that mean? I ask.
"The difference between us and those two," interjects Abu Malaahim, pointing to Musa and Yusuf, "is that us lot do a verbal thing, [but] those brothers actually want to do a physical thing."
Referring to the latest truce offered by Bin Laden, and Britain's scathing rejection of it, Abu Malaahim adds: "He tried to make a peace deal. When terrorism happens, you will only have yourselves to blame."
How far are you prepared to go? I ask.
"You want to know how far I will go," says Abu Musa, his high-pitched lisp rising an octave. "When Allah said in the Koran 'kill and be killed', that's what I want. I want a martyr operation, where I kill my enemy."
Are you saying, I probe, that you are looking to kill people yourself ? "Yes," Abu Musa says, "to kill and to be killed." He emphasises each word.
What's stopped you doing it? "As you know from watching the news," intones Abu Yusuf, "there are brothers who do leave the country and do it." He is referring to the four Muslims from Luton who died fighting for the Taliban in Afghanistan, and the two British Muslims, said to have had ties to al-Muhajiroun, who last April left to become suicide bombers in Israel. "In-shallah [ Godwilling], there will be a time to go."
It is hard to know whether Musa and Yusuf are deadly serious or just pumped full of misguided, youthful bravado. Though I see coldness - even ruthlessness - in their eyes, I sense no malice. Both young men agree, perhaps foolishly, to be quoted using their real names, though they decline photographs - thus illustrating their uncertainty of which way to jump.
Muhammad Sulaiman, president of the Islamic Cultural Society, the largest of the 14 mosques in Luton, dismisses al-Muhajiroun as "verbal diarrhoea".
"They are an extreme Right-wing group - the Muslim version of the BNP," he says disdainfully. "They think Muslims should dominate, just like the BNP thinks whites should dominate. They use Islam as a vehicle to promote their distorted beliefs, particularly to unemployed young bloods who are vulnerable."
ALTHOUGH unemployment in Luton is just six per cent, the rate among Muslim youths is estimated at 25 per cent. "They are no more representative of our Muslim community than the BNP are of the white community."
Sulaiman insists that Sayful Islam and his crew are not welcome at the mosque. He cannot prevent them praying there, but he will never give them a platform. "I've told Sayful to bugger off and ejected him many times," he says brusquely. "Even Sayful's father, who I know well, thinks his son has been brainwashed."
But Sayful and his friends laugh at the idea that they are local pariahs. "The mosques say one thing to the public, and something else to us. Let's just say that the face you see and the face we see are two different faces," says Abdul Haq. "Believe me," adds Musa, "behind closed doors, there are no moderate Muslims."
They also mock the idea that they are attracted to al-Muhajiroun because they have suffered alienation from white society. "Do we look like scum?" they ask. "Do we look illiterate?"
As they call for the bill, Abu Malaahim flicks open his 3G mobile phone and, with a satisfied grin, displays the image, downloaded from the internet, of an American Humvee burning in Iraq.
Abu Yusuf says: "That's nothing. I downloaded the picture of the four burnt Americans hanging from the bridge." It's oneupmanship, al-Muhajiroun style.
Sayful, the only married one in the group, prepares to go home to his wife and children. Before he departs, he says he has a message to deliver.
"I want to warn that the police raids - if repeated - could create a bad situation.
"Islam is not like Christianity, where they turn the other cheek. If they raid our homes, it could lead to the covenant of security being broken.
"Islam allows us to retaliate. That would include" - he tugs his "Jihad" coat tight against the night air - "by violent means."
You're right, Numeral - it's very odd that all of this was said so very openly. Dhiren Barot was punished more for saying less, wasn't he? The only thing I find more surprising is that it wasn't carried in the Daily Mail....especially with the extra-insulting angle of him being a 'benefit scrounger' on top of it all
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Anjem Choudary From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Anjem Choudary (born in 1967) is a British Islamist activist and follower of Omar Bakri Mohammed. He has made terrorist threats on various occasions, founded several Islamist terrorist organizations which have subsequently been banned by the British government, and has participated in numerous protests relating to Islam. Choudary has urged Muslims to not cooperate with the police in fighting terrorism, and has recently called for the assassination of the Pope.
Political background and activities
Choudary, along with Omar Bakri Muhammad, led Al-Muhajiroun, an Islamic terrorist organization that operated in the United Kingdom until its dissolution in 2004. He now speaks for Bakri, who was banned from Britain on 12 August 2005 by Home Secretary Charles Clarke on the grounds that his presence in Britain was "not conducive to the public good". Choudary is also a spokesman for Al Ghurabaa, a terrorist organization that is banned in Great Britain.
Jihadist military training in Britain
On November 7, 1999, the Sunday Telegraph reported that Muslims were receiving weapons training at secret locations in Britain. Most of those who trained at these centers would then fight for Osama Bin Laden's International Islamic Front in Chechnya, while others would fight in such places as Kosovo, Sudan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Kashmir. The report identified Anjem Choudray as a key figure in recruiting for these training centers.
Threat to British Jews
On October 17, 2000, Anjem Choudary issued a press release as the UK head of Al-Muhajiroun, threatening British Jews not to support Israel in any way. The press release said, in part, that it is an "Islamic obligation upon Muslims everywhere to support the Jihad against those who fight Muslims anywhere in the world or who occupy Muslim land," "the Qur'an is explicit in making Israeli aggressors and occupiers legitimate targets for Muslims wherever they may be" and that "if you support Israel financially, verbally or physically you will become part of the conflict."
Jameah Islamiyah School
In 2003 or 2004, Choudary organized a Islamic-themed camping trip, at which Omar Bakri Mohammed lectured, on the 54-acre grounds of Jameah Islamiyah School at Mark Cross, Crowborough, East Sussex. The trip, which was advertised by word-of-mouth, was attended by 50 Muslim men, most of whom were members of al-Muhajiroun. Bakri claimed the activities at the camp included lectures on Islam, football, and paintballing.
On September 1, 2006, police began a search of the school due to allegations that it was used in the training and recruitment of terrorists. According to testimony from Al Qaeda suspects held at Guantanamo Bay, in 1997 and 1998, Abu Hamza and groups of around 30 of his followers held terrorist training camps at the school, including training with AK47 rifles and handguns, as well as a mock rocket launcher.
The police investigation of the school grounds ended with no arrests, and students and faculty were allowed to return on September 23, 2006, the first day of Ramadan.
Deportation from Lebanon
In November 2005 the government of Lebanon deported Choudary and three other lieutenants of Omar Bakri Mohammad to Britain. The men claimed they were there to help Bakri set up a madrasah.
In late November 2005, soon after he was deported from Lebanon, Anjem Choudary attended the launch of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah, an organization that was intended to be the successor to Al-Muhajiroun. This organization operates mainly through an invitation-only Internet forum, of which Anjem Choudary is a prominent contributor, under the screen name "Abou Luqman". A reporter visiting the site found calls for holy war, and recordings by Osama Bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and Omar Bakri Mohammed.
Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons protest
On 15 March 2006 he was arrested in connection with the 3 February protest march, organized by Al Ghurabaa in response to the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy. He was arrested again on 4 May at Stansted Airport for an alleged breach of bail, and charged with organising the protest without notifying police. On 4 July 2006 he was convicted and fined £500 with £300 court costs.
Forest Gate raid protest
On June 9, 2006 Choudary participated in a demonstration outside the Forest Gate police station in London to protest the arrest of two Muslim terrorism suspects, as well as alleged mistreatment of Muslims by police. The demonstrators displayed signs bearing anti-government and anti-police slogans. The family of the suspects asked that this protest be boycotted.
7/7 bombing press conference
At a press conference in Walthamstow, East London, on the eve of the first anniversary of the 7 July 2005 London bombings, Choudary said that Muslims in Britain were "oppressed" and had the right to defend themselves "by whatever means"; he thought that a "Bosnia or Kosovo-style" civil war between British Muslims and non-Muslims was becoming a possibility. He also said that he would not notify police if he were to learn of another terrorist bombing plot, and that "I don't think Muslims can co-operate with police."
Pope Benedict XVI's Regensburg lecture protest
On 17 September 2006, Choudary participated in a protest outside Westminster Cathedral against a lecture by Pope Benedict XVI in which Benedict XVI said that the practice of spreading a faith through violence (commanded by Mohammed, according to a 14th century text quoted in the lecture, possibly referring to sura 9 of the Qur'an) is contrary to God's nature.
Choudary told a reporter, "Whoever insults the message of Muhammad is going to be subject to capital punishment. I am here have a peaceful demonstration. But there may be people in Italy or other parts of the world who would carry that out. I think that warning needs to be understood by all people who want to insult Islam and want to insult the prophet of Islam." Police launched an investigation into the protest, but no charges were laid.
Choudary made similar comments a month later in Dublin, Ireland, after participating in a debate in which he (along with Sulayman Keeler of al-Ghurabaa and Omar Brooks of the Saviour Sect) opposed the motion "This House Believes That Islamist Violence Can Never Be Justified"; he said, "The Pope needs to be careful in what he says because you only need to see what happened to Theo van Gogh and Salman Rushdie. People should be aware that certain punishments in Islam are justified for certain actions."
On the acceptability of killing non-Muslims
In a BBC interview Choudary was asked why he would not say with Omar Bakri Mohammed, "I condemn the killing of innocent people." Choudary replied,
At the end of the day, when we say "innocent people" we mean "Muslims". As far as non-Muslims are concerned, they have not accepted Islam. As far as we are concerned, that is a crime against God.
Call for holy war in Somalia
Choudary posted a statement on the "Followers of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama'aah Muntada" online forum calling on British Muslims to join the "divine call of jihad" and fight with the Union of Islamic Courts against the Somali government. In his statement he said the "obligation of supporting jihad all over the world is fard ayn... This honourable act must be carried out according to your own capabilities because... Muhammad said strike the [infidels] with your wealth, hands and tongue."
The film Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West produced by Honest Reporting briefly exposes Choudary's alleged Islamist hypocrisy on the subject of terrorism, by documenting both the moderate view he expresses in public to the Western media and the support he secretly offers to the "Magnificent Nineteen" behind closed doors. The Magnificent Nineteen is an epithet originally given by al Muhajiroun, and subsequently by other British Islamists, to the hijackers in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in the U.S.
Radical cleric Omar Bakri today supported Muslims fighting the British army in Iraq - but angrily denied that he inspired an alleged plot to kidnap and behead a British soldier.
Speaking from his bolthole in Lebanon, Bakri said British soldiers in Iraq had no "sanctity of life" - but added that Muslims in Britain were not permitted to attack anybody. He described reports that he had called for British soldiers to be kidnapped and beheaded "complete fabrication" and said he knew nothing about the men arrested in the alleged plot in Birmingham.
Bakri said: "What has been written in the newspapers is utter fabrication. I think you people, the western media, are the weapon of the crusade and you want to pick on Omar Bakri. You are wasting your time.
"Whoever the man, Muslim or non Muslim, who joins the British army and comes to Iraq, this man has no sanctity for his life and property in Iraq and the Muslims there have the right to fight them back.
"But for Muslims living in Britain, it's no allowed for them to attack anybody, whether he is a soldier or not.
"Everything that has been written about me is utter fabrication. The reporters want to say 'Omar Bakri calls for killing' but I didn't call for anything. "I didn't know about these people being arrested, although I do think the government is fabricating the allegations.
"I do my talks openly and publicly and people record everything I say. Everything I stand for is there."
LAHORE: The “fertiliser bomb plotters” recently imprisoned in Britain were influenced by a radical cleric who preaches that violence and terrorism are “a part of Islam”, according to a report in The Daily Telegraph. Omar Bakri Mohammed “encouraged his small band of followers to turn their ideological zeal to violence, training them in boxing and urging them on,” writes Duncan Gardham in the Telegraph report.
“It was at one such meeting that Omar Khyam, the leader of the fertiliser plotters, first came into contact with radical Islam as an impressionable teenager. It was Bakri’s boundless energy that drew together the various parts of the radical group he had founded,” writes Gardham.
Living on disability benefit in north London, Bakri drove round the UK encouraging members of radical group al-Muhajiroun. His radical ideology called for the establishment of a worldwide Muslim Caliphate and the black flag of Islam flying at No 10. Bakri helped organise a seminar after the September 11 attacks in favour of the “Magnificent 19” and went on to call the July 7 bombers the “Fantastic Four”.
In documents seen by The Daily Telegraph, al-Muhajiroun claimed: “Terrorism is a part of Islam” and “Allah made it obligatory to prepare and to terrify the enemy of Allah”. The article advised: “The kuffar of USA and UK are without doubt our enemy. There is no such thing as an innocent kafir, innocence is only applicable for the Muslims. Not only is it obligatory to fight them, it is haram [forbidden] to feel sorry for them.”
Al-Muhajiroun included several distinct groups – the fertiliser plotters Omar Khyam and Waheed Mahmood became involved in Crawley, Anthony Garcia in east London and Salahuddin Amin in Luton. In Pakistan, after September 11, those groups came together under the guidance of Mohammed Babar, an al-Muhajiroun member from New York, and others, including allegedly Hassan Butt from Manchester, says the Telegraph report.
Babar and Butt allegedly set up an “AM” office in Lahore, with Butt said to have boasted of sending British recruits to fight allied forces in Afghanistan.
Another young man inspired by Bakri was Omar Sharif, from Derby, a student at King’s College London who went on to become a suicide bomber in Israel. Six months after the arrest of the fertiliser plotters in 2004, Bakri announced that he was closing down al-Muhajiroun but other organisations have been set up by his followers. The New York Police Department said last year it believed that al-Muhajiroun and its successors had connections with Islamic societies in 21 British towns and cities as well as student bodies, publishers and a software company. In a recent article in the London-based Arabic newspaper Al Sharq al-Awsat, a former leader of one group said: “The students of Omar Bakri continue to preach on campuses.”
Bakri now lives in the Lebanon and has been banned from returning to Britain, although his wife and seven children still live in London. In a sermon in English, given over a secure Internet site by Bakri last week, he talked of anti-terrorism arrests as a “good sign”. He said: “When you put people under pressure everywhere, I think you are leading to explosion.”
Here another article on links between Omar Bakri Mohammed and the 7/7 bombings :
Was Exiled Radical Islamic Cleric Linked to London Bombings? Jeremy Reynalds - 10/6/2006
New information is emerging about exiled radical Islamic cleric Omar Bakri Mohammad and his possible involvement with the deadly London bombings. The attacks on July 7 2005 killed 52 innocent people in addition to the four suicide bombers. On recordings made of an Islamic discussion group (held nightly on Paltalk.com), answering a question about whether he was linked to the bombings, Bakri for the first time admitted going to Leeds, where two of the London bombers originated.
He also confirmed that the bombers attended talks given by himself, jailed Islamic cleric Abu Hamza, Abu Qatada and Abdullah el-Faisal.
However, following his disclosure and presumably aware that he was being monitored, Bakri said just because he traveled to the area was not an admission that he organized the bombings.
When will UK authorities ask Lebanon for the extradition of "banned cleric" Omar Bakri Mohammed ? Or is his alleged involvement in the London bombings and the "liquid terror plot" no reason to bring him to justice ? Why don't Lebanese authorities detain him ? Or did the UK make a deal with Lebanon to protect Bakri's interests, similar to the deal the UK made with Jordan regarding amongst others Abu Qatada, a supposed European Al Qaeda leader ?
Why are these people left alone, even to the point that a political deal is brokered to grant these people legal immunity after being expelled from the UK ?
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