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Title: Bali Bombings (2002)
Description: Proven to be State Terror


freedomfiles - September 21, 2006 08:53 PM (GMT)
Some background materials on the Bali bombings, which put the event in another perspective compared to the "Jemaah Islamiyah / Al Qaeda" crap in the main stream media :

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INDONESIAN ANTI-TERRORISM LAW, COOPERATION IN WAR ON TERROR

02-08-02 Powell promises Indonesia millions for Terror War
http://web.archive.org/web/20031206041053/...rld/3782138.htm

02-10-02 The US exploits “terrorist threats” to step up pressure on Indonesia
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/oct2002/sing-o02.shtml

08-10-02 Indonesian Anti-Terrorism Bill to be Deliberated
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailweekly...id=20021008.@04

09-10-02 Indonesian Anti-Terrorism Bill Ensures Human Rights
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailweekly...id=20021009.@03

09-10-02 U.S. Congress Urged to Block New Training for Indonesian Military
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.rights....de=source&hl=en

10-10-02 Indonesia comes onside in US anti-terror drive
http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journa...,809060,00.html

10-10-02 Experts blast antiterror bill for its definition of terrorism
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailweekly...id=20021010.@01

12-10-02 Experts still critical of antiterrorism legislation
http://www.thejakartapost.com/yesterdaydet...id=20021012.C01

US Ambassador Ralph Boyce threatening Indonesia, hours before Bali Bombing :

12-10-02 USA not brave enough to carry out it's threat
http://web.archive.org/web/20021021103903/.../1,1,19,uk.html

12-10-02 BALI BOMBING


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INTELLIGENCE WARNINGS, PRIOR KNOWLEDGE, US ASKS TAIWAN NOT TO DISCLOSE THREAT !

15-10-02 Taiwan Report On Bali Attack Warning
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0210/S00106.htm

15-10-02 More News On Taiwan’s Attack Warning From The US
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0210/S00105.htm

15-10-02 Opposition slams foreign ministry for slow reaction
http://web.archive.org/web/20030212095320/.../1034643430.htm

16-10-02 CIA warned of attack 14 days before
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/10/16/1034561164432.html

17-10-02 Aus. PM Admits Bali Bombing Warning
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0210/S00120.htm

18-10-02 Government admits it knew of terrorist threat to Bali
http://www.guardian.co.uk/indonesia/Story/...,814486,00.html

18-10-02 UK 'had no Bali warning'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/2332513.stm

23-10-02 Military linked to terrorist groups
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2002/513/513p13.htm

24-10-02 Indonesia briefing - Impact of the Bali bombings (Intl. Crisis Group)
http://asia-pacific-action.org/southeastas...ings_241002.htm

25-10-02 BALI BOMBINGS: The future of Islam and politics in Indonesia
http://www.abc.net.au/ra/asiapac/programs/s709257.htm

03-01-03 Bali bombing: An investigator's analysis
http://www.thejakartapost.com/yesterdaydet...id=20030103.D06

EX-PRESIDENT WAHID: ARMY & POLICE INVOLVED

02-10-05 Foreknowledge of the Bali Terror Bombings according to Indonesian & Australian reports
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...&articleId=1032

02-10-05 The Political Origins of Jemaah Islamiyah: Behind the Bali Bombings
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...&articleId=1030

12-10-05 Ex-Indonesian president links police, military to 2002 Bali bombings
http://www.forbes.com/finance/feeds/afx/20...afx2272329.html

12-10-05 Police 'had role in' Bali blasts
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/commo...5E29277,00.html

13-10-05 The Role of Indonesian Military Intelligence in the 2002 Bali Bombing
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...&articleId=1074

14-10-05 Legacy of military dirty tricks breeds JI doubt
http://www.perspektif.net/english/article....cle_id=141

18-10-05 Gus Dur: maybe he’s right after all
http://indcoup.blogspot.com/2005/10/gus-du...-after-all.html

21-10-05 Indonesia shuts down Bali bombing film
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=68167


Comment by David Ray Griffin :

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Thanks very much for the information about that documentary.

Actually, I knew about the attacks themselves from Fred Burks, who was the translator. Here is his account:

Sept. 16, 2002 – Secret Meeting with President Megawati in her home

I receive a call on Friday asking if I can take a flight the next day to interpret at a secret meeting in Indonesia.

Present at the meeting are :

- US Ambassador to Indonesia Ralph Boyce,
- NSC expert Karen Brooks,
- a CIA agent presented as a “Special Assistant to the President.”

They pressure Megawati to “render” (secretly capture and turn over) Abu Bakar Basyir, who is accused by the US of being the mastermind behind Jemaah Islamiah, which is suspected to be a sister organization to Al Qaeda. The “Special Assistant” states that through the confessions of Omar al-Faruq, who Indonesia previously rendered to the US, they now have proof Basyir attempted to assassinate Megawati twice.

Megawati responds that she can’t fulfill their request as Basyir is too well known. (He’s something like a Muslim version of Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson in US). After the US team puts further pressure on her, she states that she could do this “only if public support of him were to change.” The special assistant states, "There will be problems if Basyir is not rendered by the APEC meeting," which will take place in six weeks. President Megawati's response: “I hope this doesn’t lead to a severing of the good relations between our two countries.” The US team is quite surprised by this response. They later ask me to confirm that this is what she actually said.

The intelligence shared with Megawati in this meeting and much more is leaked to Time, who puts the story on the front page of their Sept. 23rd issue. Karen Brooks thinks Indonesian intelligence leaked this classified information, as they were also briefed. I witness the many layers of secrecy in the US embassy. Heavy barricades around the embassy show just how defensive the US government has become.

Funny story. In my hurry to pack and leave for this meeting, for the first time I forgot to pack my dress shirts on this trip. As I had a day in Indonesia before the scheduled meeting, I ran out and bought new shirts, but hadn't yet ironed them. While working in casual clothes at the embassy, I was told there had been a sudden plan change, that we were going to have the meeting"now!” instead of next day. When I told an embassy official that my clothes weren't ready, he looked at me, asked the size of my neck, waist, chest, inseam… I ended up wearing his suit to the meeting, which amazingly was a perfect fit!!! This is quite a miracle for someone who is six feet four inches tall!

Then on Oct. 12th, the Bali bombing. About 100 Australians are killed. The Australian government and public, which had previously been quite resistant, instantly changes to support the US war on terror. The bombing is pinned on Basyir by US intelligence, who claims Basyir is the head of Jemaah Islamiah (JI). This leads to Basyir’s arrest and imprisonment, easily within the six-week timeframe given at the secret meeting. This is all very convenient for the US. A little too convenient in my opinion. Many in Indonesia doubt the US intelligence backing these claims. So do I. US officials continually deny putting any pressure on Indonesia regarding Basyir.

Here are of few of the articles in English about Fred Burks testimony:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4170629.stm - BBC
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2005/s1282108.htm - ABC Australia

For a more detailed description of this meeting:
http://www.WantToKnow.info/050228secretmeeting"

Regards,
David Griffin

freedomfiles - September 21, 2006 10:24 PM (GMT)
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numeral - January 3, 2007 06:06 AM (GMT)
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Australia has betrayed Hicks, says Fraser

Former prime minister Malcolm Fraser says he never thought he would see the time Australia departed from providing justice to all citizens like it has with David Hicks.

Hicks has been detained by the US at its Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, detention centre since January 2002, a month after his capture among Taliban forces in Afghanistan.

The 31-year-old Adelaide man has recently refused visits from Australian consular officials.

Asked what he saw as different today to when he was in government 30 years ago, Mr Fraser said western democracies, including Australia, had "depart(ed) from the rule of law and due process and justice to all citizens as we have".

Mr Fraser said Hicks in particular has been betrayed by the Australian government.

"Nobody knows if David Hicks is guilty or innocent, although the prime minister has said he has not offended Australian law, which should give an indication the way (in which) he has been totally deserted by the Australian government," Mr Fraser told Southern Cross Broadcasting.

Hicks pleaded not guilty in August 2004 to charges of attempted murder, conspiracy and aiding the enemy.

But those charges were struck out by the US Supreme Court in June this year when the court ruled the military commissions were unlawful.

The US government has rewritten the commission rules, and the Australian government has said Hicks is likely to be charged again early this year.

"The way lies after lies after lies have been said about how he's going to be tried ... there is no respectable legal authority that I know of that has suggested those military tribunals are going to be anything more than a victor's tribunal," Mr Fraser said.

"The British started to outlaw evidence taken by torture 500 years ago and now we accept it and we accept it in Hick's case."

persistence - April 16, 2007 04:32 PM (GMT)
I came across this interesting page concerning the disinformation put out about the Bali 2002 bombing -

http://www.vialls.com/nuke/bali_micro_nuke.htm

"Five feet deep and twenty-two feet in diameter, the crater served as proof that the weapon was detonated underground rather than on the surface. The only way any explosive can cause a crater is if it is first dropped from an aircraft and penetrates sub-surface before exploding, or if it is physically positioned sub-surface in advance."

freedomfiles - May 8, 2007 12:40 PM (GMT)
IMHO almost anything written by Joe Vialls can be seen as disinformation itself...

Bridget - May 8, 2007 12:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (freedomfiles @ May 8 2007, 01:40 PM)
IMHO almost anything written by Joe Vialls can be seen as disinformation itself...

Welcome back freedomfiles :) we've missed you.

numeral - May 8, 2007 01:08 PM (GMT)
J7 Competition

What was the type of explosive used in the Kuta beach explosions?

Answers on a postcard please. The first correct answer opened wins an intimate evening with DAC Peter Clarke.

There are lots more possible competitions:

What were the types of explosives used in Madrid? etc. etc.

freedomfiles - May 17, 2007 10:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bridget @ May 8 2007, 12:51 PM)
QUOTE (freedomfiles @ May 8 2007, 01:40 PM)
IMHO almost anything written by Joe Vialls can be seen as disinformation itself...

Welcome back freedomfiles :) we've missed you.

Glad to be back, been pretty busy studying during my stay in India ;)

freedomfiles - July 6, 2007 10:04 PM (GMT)
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user posted image

SBS Dateline – Inside Indonesia's War on Terror

This controversial report which includes extracts from an interview with the former President of Indonesia, points to the involvement of the Indonesian Military Intelligence and Police in the 2002 Bali bombing

stream/download
http://11syyskuu.net/video/terror.wmv


justthefacts - July 6, 2007 11:54 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (numeral @ May 8 2007, 01:08 PM)
J7 Competition

What was the type of explosive used in the Kuta beach explosions?

Answers on a postcard please. The first correct answer opened wins an intimate evening with DAC Peter Clarke.

There are lots more possible competitions:

What were the types of explosives used in Madrid? etc. etc.

Was it hair dye, flour, sugar, pepper, oatmeal and perfume?

2nd prize - seminar with Peter Power - rucksack provided
:ph43r:

The Antagonist - December 9, 2007 01:11 PM (GMT)
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"Fool Me Twice" - Powerful New Documentary Exposes 2002 Bali Bombings as False Flag Terror
by Reprehensor

http://www.myspace.com/foolmetwicethemovie

This well-crafted, well-documented film from Australia exposes the 2002 Bali Bombings as yet another case of False Flag Terror.

Using a formula that has worked so well for the Loose Change crew, the filmmaker has crafted a very watchable piece that flows well, with interesting visuals, a soundtrack that moves from hip to emotionally engaging, and most importantly, and most damaging of all to the powers that be... the Truth.

"Fool Me Twice" examines well-known examples of False Flag terror, and adds an excellent new sequence about the 1993 World Trade Center bombing that leaves the viewer with no doubt that Emad Salem was a controlled asset. Utilizing audio that features Salem covertly recorded while talking with FBI agent John Anticev, "Fool Me Twice" cuts to the chase regarding the 1993 bombing, and goes deeper, examining the CIA's links to this milieu.

amirrortotheenemy - March 24, 2008 03:39 PM (GMT)
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Future Revolutions

4. Reverse Radicalism

By AMANDA RIPLEY Kate Brooks

Serious study of terrorism has, for the past 20 years, been fixated on one question. That question, so teasingly close to the right one, is, Why do people join terrorist groups?

The better the study, the more muddled the findings. Would-be terrorists are "unremarkable people" living "unremarkable lives," concluded a 2007 report by the New York City police department. Humans do not join terrorist groups because they are poor, oppressed or religious. They seem to join in search of purpose, excitement or status. They seem to be fighting loneliness. But then again, not always.

The smarter question, the one experts have now begun to ask, is, Why do people leave terrorist groups? John Horgan, a Penn State psychologist, has interviewed 28 former terrorists. His subjects have spanned 13 organizations, including five Islamic extremist groups. The men have told him strikingly similar stories of disenchantment. "I was stunned by the common denominators between members of the ira and members of Jemaah Islamiah [a militant Islamist group in Southeast Asia with ties to al-Qaeda]."

Many said they'd been disappointed by the terrorist life. "The reality didn't live up to the fantasy," says Horgan. "The reality is depressing, stressful and generally not what people expect." And in that disconnect lies opportunity. Nearly a dozen countries, including the U.S. in Iraq, have recently started programs to educate radicals about the gap between their religious ideals and the groups they follow—to essentially force the disenchantment process with the help of clerics and ex-terrorists. "We've been fighting the wrong battle," says Frank Cilluffo, a former White House Homeland Security official who is researching deradicalization at George Washington University. "The real center of gravity of the enemy is their narrative. It is ideologically bankrupt."

Nasir Abas belonged to Jemaah Islamiah and its predecessor groups for 18 years. At a Jakarta coffee shop in February, he explained to TIME why he joined. "You have to remember how it was in those days. Muslims all over the world witnessed the suffering of their brothers and sisters," he says, sounding very much like a modern-day jihadi. When his teachers invited him to leave his native Malaysia to go to Afghanistan, he was thrilled. "I found it very heroic, a dream come true."

Nasir became a weaponry instructor at a mujahedin training camp. "Give me any kind of weapon that no longer works, I can make it work perfectly again," he says with a small smile, holding his coffee cup close. Eventually, he rose to head Mantiqi Three, Jemaah Islamiah's training unit.

On Christmas Eve 2000, a wave of Jemaah Islamiah church bombings killed 19 in Indonesia. Nasir heard about it on the news, and he was distraught. "It was against the teachings of the Prophet, which bar Muslims from destroying places of worship." Then in 2002, a massive bombing rocked a Bali nightclub, killing 202. Nasir had trained two of the men involved. "I felt really troubled," he says. "I tried to talk to people in the organization, but what could you do when they wouldn't listen?"

On April 18, 2003, the police forced the issue. Nasir was arrested in East Jakarta and sent to prison for 10 months on immigration charges. He cooperated in order to get a shorter sentence and because, he says, he was tired of the lies. Nasir helped put away several Bali plotters, and he published a 2005 book arguing against killing civilians. "It's well defined in the Koran whom we are supposed to fight. It is not justifiable to kill anyone who is innocent."

Today, as an adviser to Indonesia's antiterrorism squad, Special Detachment 88, Nasir visits ex-comrades in jail to persuade them to cooperate and speaks critically of Jemaah Islamiah in the media. So far, the program has helped disengage two dozen Jemaah Islamiah members, according to the independent International Crisis Group.

Similar programs exist in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Singapore and Britain. Data on success rates are scarce, which is a problem. But even the U.S. military is paying attention: some of the 25,000 detainees in Iraq have started taking religious enlightenment classes. Major General Douglas Stone, who oversees U.S. detention centers there, has said re-education helps "knock the edge off" detainees who don't understand Islam.

Such experiments can be expected to be messy. Of all the men he has interviewed, Horgan says, none are truly deradicalized. Disengagement is more realistic. Nasir still supports the creation of an Islamic state and says Muslims have a right to kill U.S. soldiers in Iraq. When he recalls turning in former comrades, he becomes visibly upset. "I felt very sad. You will never be able to imagine how I felt." His eyes look defeated. He asks TIME not to name the coffee shop. Then he leaves, returning to the netherworld between the masses and the margins.

—With reporting by Zamira Loebis/Jakarta

TIME

justthefacts - May 10, 2008 02:19 AM (GMT)
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Indonesian terror suspect paraded in front of cameras as sign of war on terrorism success

The Associated Press
Published: May 5, 2008

JAKARTA, Indonesia: A militant accused of planning suicide bombings on Bali island was paraded in front of the media Monday in an apparent attempt to trumpet Indonesia's successes in the war on terrorism.

Aslam
, who was arrested last month, denied police allegations he was involved in the 2005 attacks on three crowded restaurants on the resort island that killed at least 20 people.

Aslam, 27, who reportedly used several aliases, said he met several times with one of Southeast Asia's most wanted terror suspects, Noordin Mohammad Top, who asked him to translate militant tracts from Arabic into Indonesian and to post them on the Internet.

Top is accused of playing a key role in the Bali bombings and in three earlier attacks on Western targets that together killed around 220 people, many of them foreign tourists.

Aslam was handcuffed Monday as two rifle-toting police officers presented him to reporters, photographers and TV crews at police headquarters in the capital, Jakarta.

The security measures may have been aimed at ramping up drama for the cameras. No one checked reporters' identities or searched them before they entered police headquarters.

Indonesian police have occasionally paraded other terror suspects before the media, either to show off successes or to persuade other militants to give themselves up.


Soft-spoken and appearing relaxed, Aslam gave journalists brief answers to about a dozen questions concerning his activities.

He said he disagreed with al-Qaida-style bombings of civilian targets.

"If you look at it from the perspective of Islamic law, it is a long debate, but presently my conviction is that it is wrong," he said.

Aslam has not been formally charged but is being held on suspicion of violating anti-terror laws that carry the maximum penalty of death. Police refused to talk about any evidence they might have against him.

Indonesia has arrested about 200 militants in recent years and several face execution or have been sentenced to long prison terms. There has not been a major terrorist attack since 2005 — a lull most experts and foreign governments say is a result of the crackdown.

Source



numeral - May 19, 2008 07:26 AM (GMT)
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AP: Asia Terror suspect may have fled Indonesia
    *  AP foreign
    * Monday May 19 2008

By CHRIS BRUMMITT

Associated Press Writer

JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP) - Southeast Asia's most wanted terror suspect, Noordin Top, may have evaded a massive manhunt and fled Indonesia, according to police documents obtained by The Associated Press.

A militant who was arrested and extradited to Indonesia told police that an Algerian who helped him escape from the country also said that Top had managed to flee, according to the police interrogation documents.

A senior anti-terror officer said Monday that police were still ``crosschecking'' the information with other sources. He spoke on condition of anonymity because of the nature of his job.

Top is accused of directing the 2002 Bali nightclub bombings and three other attacks on Western targets in Indonesia that have together killed more than 240 people, most of them foreign tourists.

If confirmed, Top's escape would be a blow to Indonesia, which has been praised for its successes in the fight against terrorism. It would also raise worrying questions about Top's current location and future plans.

Top, a Malaysian national, has been on the run since 2002. Police have arrested several of his aides or couriers and often claimed to be close to catching him, but over the last 18 months the trail has apparently gone cold.

The claim that he has fled is contained in police investigation reports into two senior Indonesian members of the Jemaah Islamiyah militant network who fled the country on a mission to link up with terrorist groups in the Middle East. They were arrested en route in Malaysia and extradited to Indonesia in late March.

Abu Husna and Agus Purwantoro told investigators an Algerian contact in Jakarta helped them obtain airplane tickets, fake passports and gave them contacts in Syria, according to the investigation reports.

While discussing Abu Husna's planned journey, the Algerian is quoted as saying: ``Do you know that Noordin Top has escaped?''

Husna says he did not and asks Jafar how he knew this. Jafar replies that it is a secret.

Sidney Jones, a researcher for the International Crisis Group and a leading international authority on militants in Southeast Asia, said it was ``plausible'' that Top had managed to escape.

``If it is true, it's a mixed blessing for Indonesia,'' she said. ``It would mean he was no longer around to recruit young Indonesians for possible attacks, but it would also mean someone with intimate knowledge of Southeast Asia was plugged back into the international jihadi network that could bring fresh attention to the region.''

Noordin Top is believed to head a breakaway faction of Jemaah Islamiyah committed to al-Qaida style attacks on Western, civilian targets. In a video seized from a safehouse in 2005, he is shown pledging allegiance to al-Qaida and vowing more attacks to avenge Muslim deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sinclair - August 1, 2008 05:56 PM (GMT)
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Indonesia to execute Bali bombers despite protest
Posted : Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:29:35 GMT
Author : DPA
Category : Asia

Jakarta - Indonesia's Attorney-General's Office (AGO) on Friday insisted it would proceed with plans to execute by firing squad three Muslim militants sentenced to death over the 2002 Bali bombings, despite their lawyers' protests that such a method amounts to "torture". Junior Attorney-General Abdul Hakim Ritonga said the executions of of Imam Samudra, Amrozi bin Nurhasyim and Ali Ghufron were legal, based on the Supreme Court's decision to reject the bombers' first appeal.

"The three will be executed by firing squad teams in line with the existing law," Ritonga told reporters. "The court's decision to reject their first appeal is enough for the AGO to carry out the executions."

Early this week, lawyers for the three militants questioned the legality of death by firing squad and said they would file a constitutional challenge to what they claimed was "torture."

Imam Samudra, Amrozi and his brother Ali Ghufron, alias Mukhlas, have never shown remorse for the bombings of three nightspots in Bali in 2002 that left more than 200 people dead.

The three have been on death row since 2003, when a Bali court sentenced them to death.

However, Ritonga said the law allowed convicts and their lawyers to appeal for a case review only once. He insisted that the AGO would ignore the defence plans to file a constitutional challenge, and would proceed with the execution.

In July, the Indonesian Supreme Court turned down the third appeal by the militants. Their first appeal was rejected late last year, prompting an unusual second appeal, which was later withdrawn.

Ritonga did not specify an execution date. Attorney General Hendarman Supandji disclosed last month that the three men would be executed before the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which to begin in September.

Indonesian police have readied three paramilitary firing squads, with each of the 12-man teams tasked with executing one of the three bombers.

Most of the soldiers will be equipped with blank rounds in a measure to prevent psychological distress, said national police spokesman Abubakar Nataprawira.

"From the squads of 12 shooters, only three will be using real bullets," Nataprawira told reporters.

Imam Samudra, Amrozi, known also as the "smiling assassin", and Mukhlas are being held in a maximum-security jail on Nusakambangan island, off the southern coast of central Java.

The three were members of Jemaah Islamiyah (JI), a regional terrorist network responsible for several bombings across Indonesia.

These include simultaneous church bombings on Christmas Eve 2000, bombings on Bali in 2002 and 2005, the bombing of a JW Marriott hotel in Jakarta in 2004 and an attack on the Australian Embassy in 2005.

source

numeral - September 25, 2008 07:03 PM (GMT)
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Film: 'Fool Me Twice' - Indian YMCA  29 Sep 2008 19:00
London 9/11 Truth presents

Film showing: ‘Fool Me Twice’ – a documentary film about the Bali bombings of 12 October 2002.

The film will be followed by a general discussion on the ‘war on terror’ and
progress of the 9/11 Truth movement on the 7th anniversary of the atrocities.

Monday 29th September, 7.00 pm
at
Mahatma Gandhi Hall
Indian YMCA
41 Fitzroy Square, London W1
Warren St or Great Portland St tube

Admission Free

In the seven years since the attacks on New York & Washington those ‘in the know’ about what happened, as opposed to those still clinging to the ‘official conspiracy theory’ now number millions throughout the world, thanks to the welter of websites, books and films on 9/11. Yet two major obstacles delay ultimate breakthrough: press & media complicity in the cover-up, and the continued preference of many to ‘blank out’ the issue altogether, rather than face an unpleasant and unsettling reality. How can these be overcome??

amirrortotheenemy - October 22, 2008 12:05 PM (GMT)
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Page last updated at 13:32 GMT, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 14:32 UK

Bali bombers lose execution bid

An Indonesian court has rejected an attempt by three men convicted of bombing a Bali nightclub in 2002 to change the method of their execution.

The three bombers were sentenced to death by firing squad over the attacks, which left more than 200 people dead.

Their lawyers say shooting does not guarantee instant death and can thus be deemed torture. They say the men should die by beheading or lethal injection.

But judges at the constitutional court ruled the argument was "baseless".

Lawyers for Amrozi, Mukhlas (alias Ali Ghufron) and Imam Samudra said they would consider taking the appeal to a higher court.

This would mean yet another delay in carrying out the death penalty on the three men, originally sentenced in 2003.

The sentences have been subject to multiple appeals, and a pledge by Indonesia's attorney general to see them die by Ramadan (which fell in early September this year) was not met.

BBC

soulshoes - October 24, 2008 09:16 AM (GMT)
After being Police chief for Bali and overseeing the corrupted and compromised Sari club investigation (Bali bmbing), Imade Pastika was then promoted to guess where?
Head of Indonesias Narcotics division.

Just in time to oversee the Trial of Schapelle Corby, the Australian Federal Police's pay back to Imade Pastika for his role in covering up the Bali Bombing false flag.
The damage caused by the massive 2nd bomb could not have come from a bomb made of fertiliser and oil, in the same way that a similar bomb did not cause similar damage to the Murrah building in Oklahoma city.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ltaauXzNwo&feature=related

http://southeastasianews.org/corby_special.html

Kier - November 1, 2008 05:16 PM (GMT)
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Execution of Bali bombers 'near'

Page last updated at 13:03 GMT, Saturday, 1 November 2008

Speculation is mounting in Indonesia that three men convicted over the 2002 Bali bombings may shortly be executed.

Reports say that the men - sentenced to death five years ago for their roles in the attacks which killed 202 people - have been placed in isolation.

Indonesia's government earlier said the men would be shot in early November.

Imam Samudra, Amrozi Nurhasyim and Ali Ghufron (also known as Mukhlas) have said they hope that their executions will trigger revenge attacks.

Correspondents say the bombers' families are unlikely to receive prior notification, as the authorities seek to avoid an Islamist backlash.

Execution order

They were found guilty of planning the twin attacks on nightclubs at Bali's tourist resort of Kuta. The bombings were said to have been carried out by militant group Jemaah Islamiah.

A source at the Nusakambangan maximum security prison, where the three are being held, was quoted by AFP news agency as saying that an execution order had been issued.

A pledge by the attorney general to see them die by Ramadan - which fell in early September - was not met.

However in a statement several days ago, his office said the executions would be carried out "at the beginning of November".

Last month, Indonesia's Constitutional Court rejected defence arguments that the three should be beheaded instead of being executed by firing squad, which, they argued, did not guarantee instant death and would amount to torture.

The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Jakarta says few Indonesians support the bombers, but the execution of men who say they were defending Islamic values is likely to spark a reaction.

BBC News


Kier - November 9, 2008 10:24 AM (GMT)
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3 executed by firing squad for Bali bombings

By Peter Gelling
Published: November 9, 2008

JAKARTA, Indonesia: Three men convicted in the 2002 bombings in Bali that killed 202 people and spurred the Indonesian government to act more forcefully against Islamic militants were executed by firing squad early Sunday morning, the Indonesian attorney general's office said.

Tied side by side to wooden posts, the bombers — Imam Samudra, Amrozi and Mukhlas, also known as Ali Ghufron — were simultaneously shot in a field on a small prison island off western Java, officials said.

The executions brought an end to years of uncertainty about the fate of the three men, who were convicted in 2003 but whose deaths was put off many times because of government fears about a political or terrorist backlash.

A lawyer for the militants, Achmad Michdan, said in a telephone interview that supporters would demonstrate in the coming week against the executions but that they were now focused on the funerals, which were to take place as soon as the bodies were returned home on Sunday.

Government officials stepped up security at hotels, shopping centers and embassies in the capital as well as near the prison and in the bombers' hometowns, anticipating possible retaliatory attacks. Security has also been increased in Bali, where thousands of Australian students are now spending their holidays despite travel warnings issued by the Australian government. For weeks, the authorities there have been searching any vehicles coming onto the island.

The American and Australian Embassies received anonymous threats last week warning that they would be attacked if the executions were carried out.

Analysts, however, said a major attack was unlikely because the bombers' group, Jemaah Islamiyah, a regional terrorist network linked to Al Qaeda, has been seriously weakened. Since the government began an intensive counterterrorism campaign after the bombings, it has killed or arrested most of the organization's top leaders.

The bombers are the first Muslim extremists to be executed under new laws passed here in 2003 that impose the death penalty for terrorist attacks.

The bombers, who had been the public face of Jemaah Islamiyah since their arrests in 2003, writing and preaching from prison, had publicly said they were looking forward to their executions, which they expected would turn them into martyrs.

In a letter written several weeks ago and posted on a sympathetic Islamist Web site, Mukhlas said he felt no remorse for the killings. "I am neither afraid of prison nor the death penalty," he wrote. "I am not content with lenience or freedom. And I was not mournful when accused of killing people in the path of God, and at this moment I'd proclaim: 'In the name of God, I have won.' "

The Bali attacks, on Oct. 12, 2002, involved two major bombs: one set off inside a nightclub popular with Western tourists in the busy Kuta beach area and another in a truck outside a nearby club that killed dozens of people trying to escape. A third, smaller bomb exploded outside the American Consulate in Denpasar but caused no injuries.

Mukhlas had been the operational chief for Jemaah Islamiyah since 2001, according to police records, and he fought the Russians in Afghanistan in the 1980s. He recruited Amrozi, his younger brother, to help carry out the bombings. Another brother, Ali Imron, is serving a life sentence in the case.

Samudra, who was believed to have chosen the targets, has written that the attacks were to avenge the deaths of innocent Muslims at the hands of the West.

International Herald Tribune



Bridget - November 14, 2008 01:30 PM (GMT)

Kier - August 8, 2009 10:19 AM (GMT)
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Terrorist mastermind Noordin Mohammed Top shot dead after a 17-hour seige

By Richard Shears In Sydney
Last updated at 10:00 AM on 08th August 2009


   
With guns blazing, dozens of heavily-armed police commandoes ended the reign of terror of South East Asia's public enemy number one today, gunning down terrorist mastermind Noordin Mohammed Top.

The man responsible for a number of terror bombings in South East Asia - particularly Indonesia - was hit by dozens of police bullets when a SWAT-style team moved in on a farmhouse where  he was hiding.

After a 17-hour seige, during which hundreds of shots were exchange between police and Top and at least four accomplices he was holed up with, his body was brought out of the bullet-riddled house.

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Dead: A body bag is carried out of the farmhouse where terror suspect Noordin Mohammed Top was killed

The siege, which began after two suspected terrorists were arrested in the village and gave police information about Top's whereabouts, saw heavily-armed police with blast-proof shields and assault rifles enter the house in Beji village, in Indonesia's central Java.

With the farmhouse, in the middle of a vegetable field, surrounded, Top was told by loudspeaker to surrender. But he said he would not be taken alive - and then the gun battle began.

During the exchange of shots police also fired rockets into the house, causing big blasts inside.

The crack counter-terrorism team of police received information about Top's hideout while investigating last month's twin suicide bombings on hotels in the capital, Jakarta, when two Australians and a New Zealander were among the victims.

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Suspect: Noordin Mohammed Top is believed to be behind the 2005 Bali bombings

The news network Al Jazeera reported on its website early today that Noordin top had been arrested and taken into custody, but that was before later reports from the scene suggesting that two men had been killed and that one of them was Top.

'There was a shooting between the special detachment team and the people inside the house,' said police spokesman Nanan Soekarna. 'This house was our target.'

Dramatic photographs from the scene showed armed police gathering to make the raid on the spot-lit, isolated farmhouse.

An Indonesian website, detik.com, quoted an intelligence source as  claiming that Noordin Top had been shot dead, while another source said a body that had been taken to a mortuary was being examined to confirm if it was the wanted terrorist. Police later confirmed that Top had been killed in the attack.

A spokesman said he had 'succumbed to bullets and the impact of explosions'.


Top's execution is a huge coup for police, who have been hunting for him for years while he continued to send suicide bombers on missions to blow up buildings and kill people throughout Indonesia.

While he was not named as a suspect in the 2002 Bali bombings, he is said to have been behind a number of later attacks, including bomb blasts in Bali in 2005 in which 20 people were killed and 129 were injured.

The gun battle at the house in Beji village began late in the afternoon and continued into the early hours of today.

It was believed that at least four suspected Islamist militants were hiding there, including Top.

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Hideout: Indonesian anti-terror police search the farmhouse in Central Java where terror suspect Noordin Mohammed Top was killed during a 17-hour seige.

Police said two people 'connected to the group in the house' had been arrested, but others who had remained inside began exchanging gunfire with the police when they realised the mud-brick home was surrounded.

Top is said to have the blood of more than 40 people on his hands since he rose to prominence as a terrorist after the Bali bombings of 2002.

He is wanted over suicide bombings on the JW Marriott hotel in Jakarta in 2003, the Australian Embassy in 2004, the Bali bombings of 2005. He is also said to have been behind last month's suicide attacks on the Marriott Hotel and the nearby Ritz-Carlton.

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Most wanted militant eluded capture for years

By ANTHONY DEUTSCH (AP) – 1 hour ago


JAKARTA, Indonesia — Noordin Mohammad Top, an aspiring regional commander for al-Qaida who evaded capture for years until he was reportedly shot dead in a raid Saturday, has been linked to a series of bombings in Indonesia that killed 250 people.

The manhunt for Southeast's Asia's most wanted militant escalated last month when twin suicide blasts killed seven at the Ritz-Carlton and J.W. Marriott hotels in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta — ending a four-year lull in terrorism.

Noordin has most notably has been linked to the Bali bombings in 2002 and 2005, which together killed 222 people, the majority of them foreigners vacationing on the resort island. He emerged as a regional terrorist leader with extensive bomb-making skills after the first Bali bombing and is accused of masterminding at least three major strikes in Indonesia.

If confirmed, his death would mark a major setback for terrorists operating in the world's most populous Muslim-majority nation.

Counterterrorism operations in recent years netted hundreds of suspected militants, including a number of Noordin's closest associates. But Noordin's time on the run seems to have ended in an hours-long shootout at a remote village in central Java where he had been holed up.

Police have not confirmed that his body was recovered from the scene, where a siege culminated in a burst of gunfire and explosions and police flashed each other a thumbs up.

Noordin, 40, formed his radical ideas in the early 1990s at a Malaysian boarding school headed by an Indonesian Muslim cleric, Abdullah Sungkar, who founded regional terror network Jemaah Islamiyah, which Noordin joined in 1998 after brief training in the southern Philippines.

He fled south to the Indonesian province of Riau in 2002 amid a crackdown on Muslim extremists in Malaysia in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in the United States, before rising to prominence in the Bali bombings.

A disagreement over targeting civilians caused a split in Jemaah Islamiyah and Noordin formed a more violent faction, Tanzim Qaidat al-Jihad, which he reportedly called the "al-Qaida for the Malay archipelago." Its aim is to create a common Muslim state in Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei and the Philippines.

A claim of responsibility for the July 17 attack was posted on the Internet in his name, but its authenticity could not be verified.

The U.S. State Department had classified Noordin as a terrorism financier since the 2002 and 2005 Bali bombings, but he managed to plot several other strikes while avoiding near capture half a dozen times.

Prosecutors say Noordin had ties to al-Qaida supported terrorist attacks, including the 2002 bombings on the resort island of Bali, the first J.W. Marriott Hotel attack in 2003, the Australian Embassy blast in 2004, and the 2005 triple suicide bombings on restaurants in Bali.

In July, police said Noordin was the most likely culprit behind the recent bombings, but he was not formally named as a suspect. His photo was widely distributed along with sketches of the suicide bombers and a $100,000 reward for information leading to his capture was outstanding.

With more that 17,000 islands and a population of 235 million, Indonesia is a relatively easy place for a fugitive to go underground, and terror experts said he has had the help of a substantial support network and several wives.

The closest authorities have ever come to seizing him was probably in July 2008, in Palembang, a coastal city on Sumatra, in a raid that netted 10 militant suspects.

Special police units were also said to have been close on his trail when in November 2005 they shot and killed Azhari Husin, a close friend and technical operative of Noordin's.

"As long as you keep your troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and intimidate Muslim people, you will feel our intimidation and our terror," a masked man believed to be Noordin said in the message aired on Indonesian television at the time. "You will be the target of our next attack."

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

AP


justthefacts - August 8, 2009 11:54 AM (GMT)
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Suspect: Noordin Mohammed Top is believed to be behind the 2005 Bali bombings

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justthefacts - September 17, 2009 11:30 AM (GMT)
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Some other bloke dies who was also Noordin Top. Are they cloning terrorists with the same name who vaguely resemble each other in a poor light?

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Bridget - September 18, 2009 12:24 AM (GMT)
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Sep 17, 2009 6:40 am US/Central
Police: Terror Mastermind Killed
Noordin Top, Leader of Southeast Asian Terrorist Group Linked To Jakarta Hotel Blasts That Killed 8, Killed In Raid

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    A picture of Malaysian terror suspect Noordin Mohamad Top, released by Indonesian police in 2006.

Noordin Muhammed Top, a militant mastermind who eluded capture for nine years and terrorized Indonesia with a string of deadly al Qaeda-funded bombings, was killed during a raid in central Indonesia, the country's police chief said Thursday.

Police hunting for suspects in Jakarta hotel bombings raided a hide-out in central Indonesia, sparking gunfire and an explosion Thursday that left four suspected militants dead, including Noordin, national police Chief Bambang Hendarso Danuri said. Three alleged terrorists also were captured.

Noordin's remains were found in the house on the outskirts of the town of Solo in central Java after the hours-long gunfight, he said.

Fingerprints of Noordin's stored on a police database matched those of the body, Danuri said. DNA tests have not yet been conducted.

"It is Noordin M. Top," he told a nationally televised news conference to loud cheers from the audience. Documents and laptop computers confiscated from the house prove that Noordin "is the leader of al Qaeda in Southeast Asia," he said.


Hundreds of pounds of explosives, M-16 assault rifles, grenades and bombs were removed from the house as ambulances shuttled away the dead and injured.

"We asked Noordin M. Top to surrender, but they kept firing," Danuri said. "That is how he died ... he even had bullets in his pockets."

Noordin, a Malaysian citizen, fled to Indonesia in 2002 amid a crackdown on Muslim extremists in Malaysia in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in the United States. He was linked to bombings on the Indonesian resort island of Bali in 2002 and 2005 that together killed 222 people, mostly foreigners.

"The most dangerous terrorist in Southeast Asia has been put out of commission," said Jim Della-Giacoma, Southeast Asia project director for the International Crisis Group think tank.

"It would have been better if police had managed to arrest him alive, but it appears that this was not an option," he said. "Unfortunately, Noordin's death does not mean an end to terrorism in Indonesia, though it has been dealt a significant blow."

Noordin, who is accused of heading a splinter group of the al Qaeda-funded regional terror group Jemaah Islamiyah, has been implicated in every major attack in Indonesia since 2003, including a pair of suicide bombings at Jakarta's J.W. Marriott and Ritz-Carlton hotels in July that killed seven people and wounded more than 50.

He is also blamed for an earlier attack on the J.W. Marriott in 2003 and a bombing at the Australian Embassy in 2004.

A counterterrorism official said the militants killed Thursday included alleged bomb-maker Bagus Budi Pranato. The captured militants included a pregnant woman who is being treated at a hospital, national police spokesman Nanan Sukarna said. She was in stable condition.

Police tracked the seven suspects to the town of Solo and besieged a village house on its outskirts overnight. The raid ended near daybreak when an explosion occurred inside the home, Sukarna said.

The operation left behind a charred house with no roof and blown-out walls. The bodies were flown to Jakarta for autopsies.

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Mark Gobell - January 26, 2010 09:30 PM (GMT)
Bali 1 - 12.10.2002

9 months and 11 days into the year. > 911




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