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 Amena, an story of your Pakistani Muslims, Makes me think this is more the reality
ThomasDF
Posted: Aug 20 2012, 01:41 PM





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Link: http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-g...?cid=hero_media

In spite of claims that Islam is so fair and compassionate, there is so much we see so often like this that shows the practice is quite the opposite. Though you often refer to Christian offenses, we simply don't see this kind of thing with Christians anywhere around the world. Muslim violent mobs are a serious reality. No matter how much you say the Qur'an says, it doesn't matter when Muslims practice the opposite. It seems you have a difficult time realizing this.
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Joan McCormick
Posted: Aug 21 2012, 09:12 AM





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I think its got a lot to do with how passionate they are about things.. let’s face it we mostly just accept anything that doesn’t interrupt our way of life. There will always be a percentage of women who will embrace the dominance of the male. There will be a larger percent of males who will grow in stature knowing they have the upper hand and consent of other males to have dominance over females,
It is the way of males to bond as a unit with women even in our society hanging on the fringes, take a typical BBQ the men hang round the coals fork in one hand prodding sausages and a beer in the other. The women banished but within cooeee in case one is needed , this is how I see the Arab nations, it is mostly males, it is the bond of manhood that glues them. And the more they all agree the louder the voices grow. This is how I see them. I may be wrong, but its more me looking at the nature of men no matter their religion or race, just look at the Brits with their football! I have never understood that! I think if we really want to get to the root of men we need to stand back and look at us as a species and what validates us all as human. It is too limiting just picking out two small sections of mankind to analyze.. yawn! bed time here for some reason I lost the link to BBS two lucky I had an Ahha moment and got it off facebook
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Amena
Posted: Aug 27 2012, 10:49 AM





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QUOTE (ThomasDF @ Aug 20 2012, 01:41 PM)
Link: http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-g...?cid=hero_media

In spite of claims that Islam is so fair and compassionate, there is so much we see so often like this that shows the practice is quite the opposite. Though you often refer to Christian offenses, we simply don't see this kind of thing with Christians anywhere around the world. Muslim violent mobs are a serious reality. No matter how much you say the Qur'an says, it doesn't matter when Muslims practice the opposite. It seems you have a difficult time realizing this.
Thomas

Like I've said before, Thomas, I'll never defend stupid and barbaric things that Muslims do.

I was apalled at this story!

By the way Islam is fair and compassionate--Muslims sometimes aren't.

And it's nonsense that 'Christians' don't 'do things' like this. They might not harass mentally deficient kids because they defile a religious scripture but they could harass them for other reasons.
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ThomasDF
Posted: Aug 27 2012, 11:44 AM





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Islam, like any belief, isn't an entity, it can't be fair and compassionate. Fair and compassionate are actions. If a substantial number believers practice the opposite, I think it's reasonable to say the belief is flawed.

I'm sorry, maybe I'm not very well informed, but when have Christians done anything like this today? I don't recall ever hearing of Christians becoming violent because of an offense against the Bible.

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ThomasDF
Posted: Aug 27 2012, 12:03 PM





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It's interesting how you interpreted this subject as being a gender issue. The feminists have certainly had a major negative impact on so many societies. Human beings (especially regarding gender) is like the ocean, if you only look at the surface all you see are waves. In the case of feminism, they only pay attention to the waves during a a storm. You look at men in things like BBQ and football game and think you have an accurate impression. You focus so much on the suffering of women and pay absolutely no attention to the suffering of men. I hate to tell you, but there as many men who are dominated by women as there are women who dominate men. There is as much abuse of men by women as there is abuse of women by men. When it comes to sacrifice, men have sacrificed a million times more than women. If you only see one side of a coin, it's because you're obsessed with that side.
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Domenic
Posted: Oct 29 2012, 07:09 AM





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Muslims; To understand Muslims, one needs to read the Qur‘an. Islam is not just another religion.

Some high points that differ from the Bible;

Jesus is not the son of God.
Jesus will come back, resurrect Mohammad, bow down to Mohammad, and all people will become Muslim.

Muslims are commanded to go into other lands, be kind, and befriend the people. When in a position to take over, subdue the people. Those who will not be subdued are to be killed.

When appointed to positions of Government, they can, and will change laws from Christian to Muslim.

The big difference between the Bible, and the Qur’an ;
The Bible has prophecies that have come true, the Koran has none. The Bible has many things to prove it true. The Qur’an has none.

I am not suggesting Christians do anything about the situation, nor am I suggesting Muslims are bad. If the problem bothers anyone they should read both the Bible, and the Qur’an…follow one, the other, or none.
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Posted: Oct 29 2012, 05:18 PM





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Didn't get to see the article sited here, but can see you're still beating the same drum, Thomas.
The Muslin faith is based in victimization. The Christian faith is based in righteousness. What is sorely needed in all cases of faith, religion, beliefs or constipated narcissism, is positive notion that says we're all in the same boat...lost in time. These times are darker than the so named dark ages. Here we are, we humans, with the ability and education to overcome archaic customs and nonsensical beliefs, and all we can do is play one-up-man-ship.
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ThomasDF
Posted: Oct 29 2012, 06:33 PM





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Your view of religion contradicts your claim of ability and education. You didn't bother to educate yourself about religion and the result is a nonsensical belief. Let's see, are there Christians killing thousands of people every single year, including their own? I-DON'T-THINK-SO. Do we see Muslims massively operating charities in the millions of man hours and hundreds of billions of dollars every year? I-DON'T-THINK-SO. Now how could you have missed something this obvious? Oh yeah, you are too consumed with seeing all religion as archaic customs. You're just another anti religion radical.

Actually, it's self proclaimed liberal intellectuals who hate religion who are doing the most damage to our quality of life, stability and prosperity. To really pin it down, control freak communism is the only ideology that seeks to eliminate religion. No, the Cold War isn't over, not by a long shot. If you aren't communist/Marxist/socialist/ liberal progressive (all the same), you're sure as hell doing their bidding. Religion isn't going anywhere, so deal with it.

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QUOTE (ThomasDF @ Oct 29 2012, 06:33 PM)
Your view of religion contradicts your claim of ability and education. You didn't bother to educate yourself about religion and the result is a nonsensical belief. Let's see, are there Christians killing thousands of people every single year, including their own? I-DON'T-THINK-SO. Do we see Muslims massively operating charities in the millions of man hours and hundreds of billions of dollars every year? I-DON'T-THINK-SO. Now how could you have missed something this obvious? Oh yeah, you are too consumed with seeing all religion as archaic customs. You're just another anti religion radical.

Actually, it's self proclaimed liberal intellectuals who hate religion who are doing the most damage to our quality of life, stability and prosperity. To really pin it down, control freak communism is the only ideology that seeks to eliminate religion. No, the Cold War isn't over, not by a long shot. If you aren't communist/Marxist/socialist/ liberal progressive (all the same), you're sure as hell doing their bidding. Religion isn't going anywhere, so deal with it.

Thomas

The God of the Bible says the nations will destroy all religion...how do you deal with that? If any religion was from God it could not be destroyed...they must be from some other source. I wonder who?
I am pro God, and yes, very anti-religion.
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Really now, Thomas, if you must remain ignorant at least get some sound background on religion before you label a non-participant, in whatever faith it is you fold yourself into, with mocking language. Religion has its uses and evolving beyond it has nothing to do with intellectual prowess.
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ThomasDF
Posted: Oct 30 2012, 12:22 AM





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QUOTE (nancy @ Oct 29 2012, 10:16 PM)
Really now, Thomas, if you must remain ignorant at least get some sound background on religion before you label a non-participant, in whatever faith it is you fold yourself into, with mocking language. Religion has its uses and evolving beyond it has nothing to do with intellectual prowess.

I have no idea what you mean by label a non participant. What mocking language are you referring to? And, where do you get this intellectual prowess crap from? You didn't address anything I said, all you did is bitch at me and I didn't make a single personal remark about you. Your response was so pretentious and arrogant, you're not as smart as you think you are.

If you want to get into insults I'll be more than happy to accommodate, but that would be unwise.

BTW, I have no religion, only an idiot makes assumptions like that.

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ThomasDF
Posted: Oct 30 2012, 12:25 AM





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QUOTE (Domenic @ Oct 29 2012, 06:57 PM)
The God of the Bible says the nations will destroy all religion...how do you deal with that? If any religion was from God it could not be destroyed...they must be from some other source. I wonder who?
I am pro God, and yes, very anti-religion.

I don't recall that passage and I really don't care. I have no idea what you mean by being pro God and anti religion.

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nancy
Posted: Oct 30 2012, 01:20 AM





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QUOTE (ThomasDF @ Oct 30 2012, 12:22 AM)
I have no idea what you mean by label a non participant. What mocking language are you referring to? And, where do you get this intellectual prowess crap from? You didn't address anything I said, all you did is bitch at me and I didn't make a single personal remark about you. Your response was so pretentious and arrogant, you're not as smart as you think you are.

If you want to get into insults I'll be more than happy to accommodate, but that would be unwise.

BTW, I have no religion, only an idiot makes assumptions like that.

Thomas

I suggest you read again your posts. Seems as though you condridict yourself constantly. I do apologize for talking over your head, and especially for accusing you of having religion, or for that matter, any kind of a working progression in thought. I know you live and breathe to insult, so go for it.
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ThomasDF
Posted: Oct 30 2012, 01:46 AM





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QUOTE (nancy @ Oct 30 2012, 01:20 AM)
I suggest you read again your posts. Seems as though you condridict yourself constantly. I do apologize for talking over your head, and especially for accusing you of having religion, or for that matter, any kind of a working progression in thought. I know you live and breathe to insult, so go for it.

Okay smart ass, now explain why you didn't answer any of my questions. The difference between us is I at least attempt to clarify a person'e meaning. You don't really give a shit what someone means, your impression is good enough.

Since you were so nice to apologize, I'll do the same. I apologize for assuming you had half a brain and actually interested in learning. You really are a bitch saying I live for insulting while doing it yourself.

Anyway, I get it, you don't like religion and you think you have religion all figured out. Well, my dear, congratulations, you belong to a community of self proclaimed intellectual buffoons. Go back to school and we'll see just how dumb and superior you become. Just keep in mind there's a social storm brewing and self proclaimed intellectuals are not going to be "socially acceptable". Get off your high horse before the horse turns around and bites you in ass.

Darn, I may have written too much. Did it go over your little girly head?

Thomas
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