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Posted: Sep 16 2009, 07:50 AM


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When I googled 'UN Gaza War Report' I got Stories on Israeli's reaction instead of on the report itself at a rate of about 10 to 1. Israel has attacked UN bias and one of the investigating team but has not refuted any of the evidence presented in the 500+ page report. Whats new?
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=226141

Its going to be interesting to see if anything comes of this one.
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Posted: Sep 16 2009, 10:40 AM


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QUOTE (rick @ Sep 16 2009, 07:50 AM)
When I googled 'UN Gaza War Report' I got Stories on Israeli's reaction instead of on the report itself at a rate of about 10 to 1. Israel has attacked UN bias and one of the investigating team but has not refuted any of the evidence presented in the 500+ page report. Whats new?
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=226141

Its going to be interesting to see if anything comes of this one.

Rick,
I have not et read the report but I will find it and send you the URL. In any event, the U.N. has NEVER been an honest broker in the Middle East and the report is immediately suspect to begin with.


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Posted: Sep 16 2009, 10:48 AM


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The brief summary I got on the TV news here stated that the report accuses BOTH sides of war crimes.

Sounds about right to me...but of course Googling finds hundreds of accusations that the report was biased because it is (inevitably) critical of both sides.


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QUOTE (Dan @ Sep 16 2009, 10:40 AM)
QUOTE (rick @ Sep 16 2009, 07:50 AM)
When I googled 'UN Gaza War Report' I got Stories on Israeli's reaction instead of on the report itself at a rate of about 10 to 1. Israel has attacked UN bias and one of the investigating team but has not refuted any of the evidence presented in the 500+ page report. Whats new?
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=226141

Its going to be interesting to see if anything comes of this one.

Rick,
I have not et read the report but I will find it and send you the URL. In any event, the U.N. has NEVER been an honest broker in the Middle East and the report is immediately suspect to begin with.

Rick,
This thing is 600 pages long..... are you ready to read it or do you want the "Cliff Notes" or the "Criticizing Israel for Dummies" book?

In the report God cursed palestinian muslims claimed than when Israeli artillery shells landed on their house that they used as a launching pad for rockets, the house was destroyed. How dd.

Furthermore the God cursed palestinian muslims complained that they cried allah akbar and still got the shit kicked out of them.

Whatever the report says, the god cursed palestinian muslims started a war by firing thousands f rockets into Israel and they should be on their hands and knees thanking whatever demon they worship that I was not the Israeli Defense Minister for if I was, this entire bullshit with the god cursed palestinian muslims would be over.


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QUOTE (Dan @ Sep 16 2009, 10:51 AM)
QUOTE (Dan @ Sep 16 2009, 10:40 AM)
QUOTE (rick @ Sep 16 2009, 07:50 AM)
When I googled 'UN Gaza War Report' I got Stories on Israeli's reaction instead of on the report itself at a rate of about 10 to 1. Israel has attacked UN bias and one of the investigating team but has not refuted any of the evidence presented in the 500+ page report. Whats new?
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=226141

Its going to be interesting to see if anything comes of this one.

Rick,
I have not et read the report but I will find it and send you the URL. In any event, the U.N. has NEVER been an honest broker in the Middle East and the report is immediately suspect to begin with.

Rick,
This thing is 600 pages long..... are you ready to read it or do you want the "Cliff Notes" or the "Criticizing Israel for Dummies" book?

In the report God cursed palestinian muslims claimed than when Israeli artillery shells landed on their house that they used as a launching pad for rockets, the house was destroyed. How dd.

Furthermore the God cursed palestinian muslims complained that they cried allah akbar and still got the shit kicked out of them.

Whatever the report says, the god cursed palestinian muslims started a war by firing thousands f rockets into Israel and they should be on their hands and knees thanking whatever demon they worship that I was not the Israeli Defense Minister for if I was, this entire bullshit with the god cursed palestinian muslims would be over.

Sorry Rick....I forgot to give you the URL: http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcou...FMGC_Report.pdf

Have fun reading it tonight. I will enjoy reading how the artillery shells destroyed the homes of the god cursed palestinian terrorists. I love a good comedy.


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Posted: Sep 16 2009, 01:59 PM


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So we have the Goldstone Report. It should be called the Iron Pyrite (Fake Gold) Report.
The U.N. wants a sanitized war where no one is hurt, there is no damage.
In the US decapitation of the Taliban the UN wanted a halt in the war so that Taliban fighters in the hospital could heal and and return to the battlefield.
This is lunacy.
The Goldstone report does not distinguish between the palestinian aggressor and the Israeli defenders protecting women and children terrorized by the thousands of rockets fired by the palestinians. The Goldstone report further refuses to acknowledge that Hamas began a murderous rampage, firing thousands of shells on women and children – innocent civilians, instead of rebuilding Gaza and caring for the population's welfare. Hamas builds tunnels and uses civilians and children to shield terrorists and hide weapons.
That makes the civilians legitimate targets in a war.
The bottom line is that the report is a political instrument disguised in a legal cloak, but is legally unfounded.
What this report really means is that Israel is the only country in the world which is not allowed to defend itself against acts of terror.
Israel is the most threatened nation in the world and yet it makes the most effort to avoid harming innocent lives and any comparison of Israel's fight on terror with recent conflicts in Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran etc. immediately shows that Israel holds itself to the highest ethical standard.

The biased Goldlstone people should be on their hands and knees thanking Israel for keeping the muslim forces of barbaric behavior bottled up.

We all need to remember the hideous muslim woman twirling her tongue and passing out sweet cakes celebrating 9/11 and the slaughter of 3000 innocents by muslims. These are barbaric people that practice sub-human behavior and inflict a plague upon humanity.





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QUOTE (rick @ Sep 16 2009, 07:50 AM)


Its going to be interesting to see if anything comes of this one.

Don't hold your breath.


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QUOTE (selena @ Sep 16 2009, 04:12 PM)
QUOTE (rick @ Sep 16 2009, 07:50 AM)


Its going to be interesting to see if anything comes of this one.

Don't hold your breath.

I am gald that you finally came to your senses and see it my way.


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Posted: Sep 16 2009, 06:36 PM


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QUOTE (selena @ Sep 16 2009, 04:12 PM)
QUOTE (rick @ Sep 16 2009, 07:50 AM)


Its going to be interesting to see if anything comes of this one.

Don't hold your breath.

If there is anything I have learned about the middle east, it is: This is were common sense and moderation go ... and than evaporate.

The governments of both sides cannot easily be distinguished, both sides show ruthlessness and disregard of human lives and both sides stoke the flames for domestic policy reasons. And do not forget that there are actors who will not follow their government, but only their own rules. On both sides, of course.


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Robert in Vienna Posted on Sep 16 2009, 06:36 PM
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Its going to be interesting to see if anything comes of this one. 


Don't hold your breath. 


If there is anything I have learned about the middle east, it is: This is were common sense and moderation go ... and than evaporate.

The governments of both sides cannot easily be distinguished, both sides show ruthlessness and disregard of human lives and both sides stoke the flames for domestic policy reasons. And do not forget that there are actors who will not follow their government, but only their own rules. On both sides, of course.


The governments CAN be easily divided in terms of occupier and occupied. The former being illegal in the first instance therefore its a credible starting point. Also it may be noted that all the areas that were rocketed by Hamas used to be settled by Arabs until it was ethnically cleansed and the villages bulldozed in 1948. Furthermore, Israel's blockade of Gaza was illegal and went against treaties they had agreed to. It was Israel that continualy broke the terms of that treaty.

Operation Cast Lead was a great tactical blunder for the Israelis in the same way the bus and cafe' suicide bombings by the Palestinians was a mistake. It turned world opinion against the perpetrators. The Israelis are running out of freinds and its not the best time to be giving Obama the big middle finger over settlements.

interesting times indeed for Middle East watchers

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Sorry Rick....I forgot to give you the URL: http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcou...FMGC_Report.pdf


thanks Dan, I will be awol for a while
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QUOTE (rick @ Sep 17 2009, 08:27 AM)
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Sorry Rick....I forgot to give you the URL: http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcou...FMGC_Report.pdf


thanks Dan, I will be awol for a while

We'll miss you.


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The page doesn't seem to be there any more.


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QUOTE (Dan @ Sep 17 2009, 12:31 PM)
QUOTE (rick @ Sep 17 2009, 08:27 AM)
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Sorry Rick....I forgot to give you the URL: http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcou...FMGC_Report.pdf


thanks Dan, I will be awol for a while

We'll miss you.


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