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We all know that when the heart turns into a heartless, it's vessel turns into nobodies. But Roxas, Namine, Axel, and etc. are nobodies with extra abilities. And they don't look like the average nobodies.. So, how are they born?

When Sora turned into a Heartless in Kingdom Hearts 1, Roxas was born. Why did Roxas take the shape of a Human? Why was he able to wield the Keyblade? What happened?

It's said in the game that a strong heart creates a strong nobody. Maybe the weaker ones, (the ones that turn into shadows, and neo shadows alike) turn into the weaker nobodies (dusk). But the way Roxas was created was COMPLETELY different. Sora's body, the vessel, was split into three beings. His heartless (a shadow), Roxas, and Namine. With two strong hearts, especially of a QUEEN of heart, he made two nobodies, and two heartless. Sora and Kairi up until that point were considered heartless. The others must have gone through something similiar, and through that, their heartless must still exist aswell. Hard enough, Heartless were considered to rely soley on instincts, so the whole plot is somewhat messed up. It's like wrighting a sequel just because the fans demand it, and giving it a twist that doesn't make sense in some places.

Lol.. or maybe they're just keeping some facts out.

I think you have the right idea. Sora stabbed himself with the Keyblade in order to get Kairi back. Witch turned him into a heartless. Since his heart was strong, Roxas got special abilities. And even though Sora lasted as a heartless for a short periode of time. Roxas still exists. But, why was Sora whole even though he didn't fuse back with Roxas? Roxas wasn't whole...

Also, it is revealed in a trailer or something. That in Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days, a fourteenth member of the Organization is revealed. Called Xion, Xion looks like Kairi and it is said she has a connection with Kairi and Namine. Where did she come from?

Also, to add. If you take out the 'X' in Xion. It makes 'ion'. Witch can be reformed into 'Oni' witch means demon in Japanese.

Xion


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>.> what's weird, is she also appears with a keyblade... if i were an admin, i'd just lock this topic cause it's getting too confusing XP

Lol... XD

No, We must solve this puzzle! And you will solve it with me!

I would probably need to buy every game and play them in order. Listening very carefully to the facts... :P

Though, I don't have enough money for that nonsence...

Nobodies weren't introduced till KH2, so until the next ones come out, or you fix the one your brother messed up (if you didn't already throw it out) then you're outa luck.

Actually they were first introduced in Kingdom Hearts: CoM. Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days is Roxas's side of the story, it starts from his birth.

oh yea, but it doesn't reveal any information of Org XIII being nobodies, does it?

Witch, CoM or 358/2 Days? Not sure about CoM cause I didn't finish it, do to the fact I hate the battle system. I assume 358/2 Days has information about the Organization. Because Roxas was the 13th member until he gave his back to the organization in order to seek Sora. He battled Riku and when Riku took the form of Xemnas or Xehanort.. (Not sure witch one it is..) he defeats Roxas. The man with a red bandage on his face appears and places him in a virtual Twilight Town.

*Changed title of Topic*

I'm completely confused, so I'm just gonna stop posting >.>

Axel doesn't have any "extra abilities". That's one thing. he controls fire.

Thats it. He's just more involved into the storyline.

Namine is NOT a nobody. She is a girl who can control peoples memories.

Marluxia used Namine to manipulate Sora's memory.

Namine IS a nobody, she's Kairi's nobody due to when Sora released both hearts from his body, and made two vessels (nobodies) from that body, the remains becoming a heartless.

I didn't know you were in the story... XD


By the way, I agree with Dragoon about Namine being Kairi's Nobody. If she isn't a nobody. Then what is she?

There's no evidence to PROVE that shes a nobody.

There IS however, evidence to prove that Roxas is Sora's nobody.

In Kingdom Hearts II. Namine was telling Roxas about things he didn't know about himself. She said she's a witch. But! Some guys of the organization stopped her from revealing too much and when she said

"Roxas you and I aren't not like other nobodies, you will not disappear!"
"I'm gonna disappear?"
"No! You will not disappear, we will meet again. Even if we don't recognize eachother, we will meet again!"
(Something like that. Feel free to correct me.)