Fundies..., It would be funny if it weren't so sad

http://www.fstdt.com/Default.aspx

Here ya go. You want something that actually lists some of the crazy shit some extremists say? This has a database. Three or so, actually.

And some of it is downright creepy:

"Critical thinking has to be TAUGHT to people. It is no different from religion being taught to others.

Some people have never heard of critical thinking and logic. If it has to be taught, it is a religion.

This is why Dawkins wants "critical thinking" in elementary schools. He wants to hook 'em away from God young. "

HOLY GUACAMOLE BATMAN! This person is really suggesting that being an idiot is a requirement to follow God. Do they even think about what they say? Do they? Really? They are also admitting that Religion is taught, not self evident...

How... wha... n-... bu... GAH!

I love how many of those quotes start with phrases like "Sorry if you think this is "sexist", but..."
Free bro tip- if you have to apologise for how racist and sexist alll your opinions are every time you say them...chances are you are a fuckwit.

There actually IS a passage in the bible that describes the followers of Christ as "not many of you were by human standards"

No really, the bible calls believers dumb.

See for yourself (in glorious lego!)
The Brick Testament

Are you sure that passage was calling them idiots, or perhaps saying that before following Christ they were wretched and lost?

Thanks for posting this, I've bookmarked it.

The Brick Testament is great because it basically just shows you what the Bible actually says.

And some of it is....well lets just say its unorthodox.

your taking religious advice from Legos who give a few verses out of context...

I'm still trying to get over the idea that someone thinks not thinking critically is a GOOD desired trait.

For the record (Not Molly's record though), while I'm not a religious person, and I find the idea of having a "spiritual" requirement of humanity somewhat silly, at least for myself, I don't have anything against most religious people. No, I just don't like the crazies. You know, the guys who want a theocracy so they can force everyone to behave as they want.

As for the Brick Testament and other things like it...

Yeah, good for a laugh, but hardly actually effective. I laugh my ass off every time I hear George Carling's rant on religion and why he doesn't believe it... but I know that the "arguments" he makes would be easily picked apart by believers/a decent theologian.

Dismissing religion requires more than a few mocking jokes.

Though the Brick Testament doesn't seem too bad...

Canuovea I don't expect Brick Testament to change anyones religion, but it is an interesting read.

I often here the argument that things in the bible are taken out of context or that a good theologian could explain these things.
I find these arguments unconvincing, mainly because I have yet to see anyone successfully explain the correct context or present a good defence.

And it's statements like that which mean I am going to hell (if any of the major religions turn out to be true!)

Oh, I don't mean that everything in the bible can be explained by a good theologian, but I simply mean that arguments like "God is an asshole" don't necessarily hold up so easily. In fact, I find the bible rather silly at times...

Personally? I've never heard a convincing argument for the existence of God. Nor, really, for the idea of "spirituality" which, I find, can mean almost anything... particularly anything good about humanity that certain people want to shoe horn into their religion.

That all being said... I've never been convinced that there isn't a god. Simply because, given many of the supposed attributes, there could be no evidence for a god, but still be a god. That is what happens when you say something is omnipotent.

I believe there is a god. I don't believe there is solid evidence for it tho, just as there is no solid evidence against it. I don't believe there ever will be for either side. This is why the idea of arguing about god's existence seems like a waste of time to me. This is how it should go.

"I believe a god exists."
"I do not"
"We both have good reasons for our beliefs. let us go forth and be friends and try to make the world better."
"A fine suggestion. Tally Ho!"
Then they don top hats and monocles, and save an orphanage so that the kids do not need to sleep out on the streets during christmas.

(I apologize. That became incredibly silly around the time "Tally Ho!" was said)

I also believe that in addition to the god of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam being the same (god of Abraham), there is a good chance it's the same central entity of Hinduism (I can't remember what it's called. In short all the Hindu gods are aspects of one central entity/concept.), and may have something to do with Buddhism. So I think it's conceivable that everyone's correct.

Tiberius! But those poor ancient Greeks! Are you saying they were wrong?

Actually, Ovid in the beginning of the Metamorphoses did, in fact, allege creation was the work of one supreme god that came before the other gods...

Anyway...

The Pagans too! Pagans! There are Pagans still, you know! What is so silly about them?

And the Wiccans!

And... technically for you to be right the atheists have to be wrong, so not everyone can be correct.

And all those different doctrines! I mean, why? How do we know which is correct? Being born into it isn't the correct answer... (Which is one of the many problems I have with religion... it has to be taught... or, indoctrinated, to children at a young age... in the majority of the cases...). The existence of God is not inherently obvious... otherwise it would be possible to logically argue the point...

Sure, humans have a tendency to attribute agency to random things (like wind), but that doesn't instantly translate into there being a single deity... in fact, if anything, it means the opposite. Then again, we know that isn't how the natural world works, we just tend to see it that way...

Anyway, Tiberius, your position is fine with me. Making the world better is good. Work out the little details later and don't kill over them.

You know, nothing is really self evident except for basic instincts.
Scientific knowledge has to be taught, just as much as everything else.
As does critical thinking.
So the argument that religion is flawed because it isn't self evident, and has to be taught is incorrect.
I don't think anyone here has made that argument but I've heard it more often recently so it was on my mind.

for the record I think Critical thinking is one of the most important things my teachers taught me. I love using that skill.

My point was kinda that the entire premise was fucked up. I was never saying that religion is wrong because it had to be taught (which would mean the same thing for everything else taught, which is stupid).

Except I will say this... Religion having to be taught should be obvious. This isn't a problem for most people... but for those who believe that religion, namely their religion, is self evident to anyone there is a problem. This does come up, believe it or not.

I find it scary.

hah!

Really. I'm gonna send those to someone...don't know who but...

...yes. ridonkulous.

1337 glad I could raise a smile by showing you that one.

So... this could go in My Little Pony...

But, darn, I do believe it belongs here!

"
* MY LITTLE PONY
Everyone loves horses, but these are not your everyday horses. These horses can levitate, or fly through the air. Most people do not realize when they see someone or something flying through the air that this phenomenon is pure Satanism. Further, many of these horses are Unicorns. In fact, this TV cartoon so popularized Unicorns that we see them today in jewelry, clothing, paintings, and figurines. Many Christian families even own Unicorn representations in their homes. Do you realize the Unicorn has been occultic for thousands of years, and is represented in current New Age literature as being representative of the violent way in which the New World Order will be finally brought into existence? Occultic folklore has traditionally pictured the Unicorn as the destroyer of the old system, a necessary prerequisite for the New System to be established.

Did you know God utilized a Unicorn-type animal in His prophecy in Daniel 8:4-5, in depicting the final days' Anti-Christ? Do not be deceived: the Unicorn is not the sweet, gentle, and loving animal which is portrayed. Your children are being manipulated into believing a lie, and setting them up to accept the Anti-Christ when he arises.

David Bay"

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UNICORNS AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER!