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 3D models for the Class Ds and guards
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Posted: Jul 29 2012, 01:30 AM


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It IS missing the trigger, I'd assume being an early model and all, it's still missing some stuff (like the silencer, maybe).

By the way, I know I'm not in position for asking stuff (as I'm not registered and all), but could we avoid quoting the same image over and over? All the rotating G36s may cause some slowdown for people browsing this thread tongue.gif
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Posted: Jul 29 2012, 05:04 AM


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QUOTE (Random @ Jul 29 2012, 01:30 AM)
It IS missing the trigger, I'd assume being an early model and all, it's still missing some stuff (like the silencer, maybe).

By the way, I know I'm not in position for asking stuff (as I'm not registered and all), but could we avoid quoting the same image over and over? All the rotating G36s may cause some slowdown for people browsing this thread tongue.gif

LOL true. well then you should register tongue.gif
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Catechin
Posted: Jul 30 2012, 08:05 PM


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I don't think I saw this mentioned, but I was wondering why not give the guards knee/elbow pads? As useful as the arm guards on the current models are, it just seems more important to protect the joints.
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Posted: Jul 31 2012, 01:26 AM


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QUOTE (Catechin @ Jul 30 2012, 08:05 PM)
I don't think I saw this mentioned, but  I was wondering why not give the guards knee/elbow pads?  As useful as the arm guards on the current models are, it just seems more important to protect the joints.

I agree, to a certain extent.

Elbow and knee pads would be useful in general, for cushioning falls and minor injuries, but these guards have to deal with strange artifacts that can be rather unpredictable.

The Foundation houses freakish horrors that could be devastating if ever released, but also relatively harmless subjects.

It houses dangerous beings that can tear you limb from limb, or drive insane if you look at them for too long.

What I'm trying to say is, the Foundation is filled with strange things, and making your guards carry more weight, being more sluggish, without being sure if the extra weight they're carrying is actually helping isn't a good idea. Keeping their mobility should be a priority, as the facilities house plenty of subjects that can't be harmed effectively, or contained easily.

On a less serious tone though, chances are, if you run into a rampaging and dangerous SCP, you're not getting out alive regardless of your equipment D:
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Posted: Jul 31 2012, 02:36 AM


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The problem with your logic is you're basically saying they should be wearing a type I ballistic vest at most? Yes, against a lot of SCPs, there's no point in even wearing armour. So then you have to look at other SCPs, potential environmental hazards, if a class D suddenly decides to get violent, or if some hostile force invades the facility. Ya know, a catch-all. Have you even worn elbow/knee pads? They're not even close to a significant amount of weight, especially when compared to a proper ballistic vest (I'd assume they're wearing at least type II). They also really don't impact mobility in any noticeable way.

As far as I'm concerned, elbow and knee pads would do more for safety than a ballistic vest against a lot of the more dangerous SCPs, if solely for allowing the wearer to be more "reckless" in how they maneuver around their environment. As far as extra weight goes? Military equipment tends to way upwards of 100 pounds once all the extras like food, water, and any mission specific equipment are added in. Take all that out and you're looking at 40-60 for the full set of armour and weapons, so an increase or decrease of a few pounds is both insignificant and nowhere close to encumbering the wearer. There's also the possibility of The Foundation using dragon skin style armour, which would lower the weight for that further.

I really detest the "well, they're dead anyways, so why bother?" argument. These men are expected to defend the facilities from both SCP and non-SCP threats. You'd imagine they'd be outfitted as best as possible, you don't stop halfway when it comes to things like this. Why bother giving them a vest if you're not going to give them the rest of the kit? Why even bother giving them guns? Just terrible logic, in my opinion.
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Posted: Jul 31 2012, 04:11 PM


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Don't forget that Regalis did confirm that you will be pitted against MTF/Guards in the game.
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Posted: Jul 31 2012, 04:29 PM


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Your post could use a little less hostility, but I see what you mean.

While it's true that most SCPs can kill you regardless of what you do, there's no reason to deny your security personnel of basic protection.

And while the Foundation isn't exactly ultra-rich, they surely can afford that kind of equipment. I'm convinced now.

Also, MTFs seem to be quite specific in their training, what kind of task force would be able to deal with such a diverse range of SCPs all in the same place?
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Posted: Jul 31 2012, 04:40 PM


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Posted: Jul 31 2012, 05:58 PM


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I think that they would have been given knee pads and such because if a Class-D goes mental he will just punch as much as possible and may hit the knee's and also there some SCP's that only do physical damage and maybe just the same as us but with some major thought power or something like the one who can look at a photo in real time and move things that are in the photo for real.
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Catechin
Posted: Jul 31 2012, 06:21 PM


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QUOTE (Random @ Jul 31 2012, 04:29 PM)
Your post could use a little less hostility, but I see what you mean.

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Also, MTFs seem to be quite specific in their training, what kind of task force would be able to deal with such a diverse range of SCPs all in the same place?

I apologize if my post sounded hostile. I had written up a slightly longer version before my power went out and I lost it, so I wasn't the happiest chap losing all of it. tongue.gif

And, yeah, the MTF teams are all specialized towards certain types of SCPs, certain terrain, or specific scenarios. Don't know if you've seen this page or not before, but it's pretty neat.

http://www.scp-wiki.net/task-forces
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Posted: Jul 31 2012, 06:38 PM


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No prob mate. tongue.gif

And yes, seeing that page got me quite confused, which is why I asked.

Unless they send a whole army into the facility, I can't see how single MTFs would clean up a mess of this magnitude. I know they're supposed to be highly trained badasses, but due to the VERY specific nature of their jobs, it wouldn't be too wise to just send one MTF assigned to each SCP and just tell them to track them down (especially because there are none assigned to the SCPs that appear ingame, as far as I know).

What if a MTF assigned to 106 runs into 682? What if a MTF assigned to 096 (not yet ingame, I know) runs into 106?

I might be overthinking about this, but it seems very confusing to me.

I REGISTERED BY THE WAY. >:l


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Posted: Aug 3 2012, 04:31 PM


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I agree with knee pads, would be an easy inclusion. Thanks for the suggestion, I honestly, just hadn't considered it.

Gun is missing it's silencer, trigger assembly, and it's stock's swinging doorhinge (if you'll look, it's actually a stock catch and release knob on both sides of the gun).

I've been swamped with school work lately, but I've been taking time here and there to decimate, unwrap, and project the assets of the guard. Here's a WIP from earlier this week.

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As a side note, has anyone ever seen/gotten reference for a G36c silencer?
All I get when looking for reference images is kids and their airsoft versions, which I assume are generally inaccurate.
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Posted: Aug 3 2012, 04:41 PM


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looking good but i couldnt find any pics about the real g36c you are right there is only the airsoft ones but maybe they are accurate dry.gif
love the mask by the way
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Kariah
Posted: Aug 3 2012, 04:43 PM


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May not be to your liking, but it's legit.

Beep.

Boop.
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ndi05
Posted: Aug 3 2012, 04:51 PM


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QUOTE (Kariah @ Aug 3 2012, 04:43 PM)
May not be to your liking, but it's legit.

Beep.

Boop.

i dont know why but the second picture made me giggle tongue.gif
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