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 KAHLER, John 11-4-2007, Mission, BC (Stave Lake)
Posted: Nov 9 2007, 06:53 PM

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2007-11-08 10:38:22 File #Mission 2007-14738

Mission RCMP Seek Assistance in locating a missing camper

November 6, 2007

(This release was issued by fax on Nov.6/07)

The Mission RCMP is seeking the assistance of the public in locating a missing male, 29 year old John KAHLER of Langley, BC.

KAHLER went camping in the Stave Lake area of Mission on the evening of November 3 and was last seen in the early morning hours of Sunday November 4, 2007. His pick up truck, a white Ford F150 crew cab was located approximately 200 meters from the campsite, with the engine running and the radio on.

The Mission RCMP in partnership with the Greater Vancouver Search and Rescue Team, as well as numerous volunteers have been searching the area, however to date have not located KAHLER.

Anyone who may have seen KAHLER or his vehicle in the Stave Lake area or may have information with regards to his whereabouts are asked to contact the Mission RCMP at 604-826-7161 or if you wish to remain anonymous please call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477. They are open 24/7. You do not have to give your name, address, or your telephone number. You do not have to testify in Court. A cash reward of up to $2000.00 will be paid for any information which leads to an arrest and charge.

A photo fo KAHLER is available below.

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Dozens of young, healthy men have mysteriously vanished in southwestern B.C. in recent years. Many of their families suspect the disappearances are connected--police say no.
Sandra Thomas, Vancouver Courier
Published: Wednesday, May 21, 2008
Chilliwack resident Michael Scullion, 30, last seen in Agassiz April 10, 2008. Burnaby resident Kellen McElwee, 25, last seen in Langley March 19, 2008. Langley resident Derek Kelly, 32, last seen at Bridge Lake Jan. 1, 2008. Langley resident John Kahler, 29, last seen at Stave Lake Nov. 2, 2007. Burnaby resident Brian Braumberger, 18, last seen June 1, 2007.

The day after Mother's Day, Jane Kahler is missing her son John. He was healthy, sociable and had no known connection to crime. He vanished last fall in a case that baffles police. And as too many families in the Lower Mainland believe, he is part of a growing list of painfully mysterious missing person cases. More than one parent wonders if their disappearances are connected. "Too many mothers are missing their sons," says Jane during an interview from her Langley home.

May 25 is National Missing Children's Day in Canada, but some groups are using the date to call attention to all missing persons, regardless of their age. In the past several years much media attention has deservedly been given to missing women in B.C. Besides the missing and murdered women of the Downtown Eastside, and the subsequent trial and conviction of serial killer Robert (Willie) Pickton, B.C. is home to the "Highway of Tears," a stretch of Highway 16 between Prince George and Prince Rupert. Initially, nine women were listed as having gone missing or were found murdered along the stretch of highway since 1989.

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Dozens of young, healthy men have mysteriously vanished in southwestern B.C. in recent years. Many of their families suspect the disappearances are connected-police say no.
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Last year police expanded their investigation and added another nine names to that list. But some families want attention paid to the dozens of men who've gone missing in the past four years in southwestern B.C. Using archives from B.C. newspapers, the Courier began with a list of almost 60 missing men. Men with possible explanations for their disappearances, such as serious mental or physical health problems, seniors in frail health, probable suicides and those known to police for links to gangs or drugs were eliminated, leaving a list of almost 40.

The Courier cross-referenced the remaining names with 15 RCMP and municipal police detachments, follow-up newspaper articles and the Crime Stoppers' website to determine if any of the remaining men had been found--dead or alive. In total, about a dozen have been located, but unfortunately less than a handful of these men are alive. There are more men missing, but because the Courier could not confirm their status, they're not named in this article.

The remaining 22 healthy, apparently happy, men from southwestern B.C. have simply vanished. Rumours of a possible serial killer at work are growing, but police departments discount any connections in the cases.

Vancouver resident Richard Tamassy, 42, last seen April 15, 2008.

Vancouver resident Greg Cyr, 43, last seen Oct. 26, 2003.

Vancouver resident Ron Carlow, 38, last seen June 20, 2007.

North Vancouver resident Matthew Price, 22, missing since July 15, 2004.

North Vancouver resident David McMorran, 45, last seen Feb. 14, 2005.

Randy Kahler says as far as he knows his son John didn't work with, or frequent the same places, as the other young men who've recently gone missing in the Lower Mainland. The similarities lie in their appearances. John Kahler, Derek Kelly, Michael Scullion and Kellen McElwee are white, young, clean-shaven muscular men with short hair who sport tattoos. Bryan Braumberger has a similar look, but no tattoos.

Each of the men was last seen eating or drinking with friends. The vehicles of Kahler, Braumberger and McElwee were found abandoned with no sign of foul play.

Kelly is from Langley. McElwee's parents live in Fort Langley. Kahler lived in Langley until just before his disappearance; his parents still live in Langley. Kellen McElwee is from Burnaby. Braumberger lived in Burnaby with his parents prior to his disappearance. Scullion is from Chilliwack.

These guys are all in great shape. And they're all gone," says Randy.

Kahler's mother Jane wonders if a woman is involved in the disappearances. "But I don't know. The hardest is not knowing."

Kahler was attending a 4x4-truck festival at Stave Lake, located between Maple Ridge and Mission, Nov. 4, 2007, when he disappeared. Kahler, who'd been living in Whistler for six weeks before he disappeared, was last seen partying with friends at 4 a.m. Hours later his white Ford F-150 was found stuck in a sinkhole. The truck was running, the windshield wipers were operating, the radio was on, the doors were open and Kahler's cellphone was inside. There has been no sign of him since.

Mission RCMP Sgt. Greg Pridday says police thoroughly searched the area for Kahler, but with no luck. "It's strange," he says. "We've searched up and down and followed up on leads, but we've reached a dead end."

The family keeps in regular touch with the RCMP, but there are no new leads in their son's disappearance. Jane and Randy spend most weekends at Stave Lake searching for him. "We put up posters and talk to people," says Randy. "It's all we can do."

The couple says so many people attended the annual King of the Pit festival that weekend they're convinced somebody must have seen something. "We just don't know why they won't come forward," says Randy. The Kahler family posted a $25,000 reward for information leading to John's exact location. Crime Stoppers offers a $2,000 reward for information leading to an arrest in the case.

Burnaby resident Patrick Ratto, 43, last seen July 25, 2006.

Burnaby resident Terry Beckett, 55, last seen April 21, 2008.

Burnaby resident Asim Chaudhry, 24, last seen July 20, 2007.

Coquitlam resident Kenneth Shigehiro, 46, last seen March 4, 2008.

Len McElwee pins a missing poster to the bulletin board of a coffee shop located in Walnut Grove near Langley. The weather outside is sunny. The poster, asking for information about his missing son Kellen, goes up next to a missing poster for Derek Kelly.

McElwee does not miss the physical similarities shared by the young men on the posters.

"If you put their pictures side by side with a picture of Bryan [Braumberger] they have the same look," says McElwee. "They're all young men and they're all well built. But I've been assured by the Burnaby police that as far as they know, there's no connection."

McElwee says his son's case, as with the Braumberger and Scullion cases, has been transferred to the RCMP's Integrated Homicide Investigative Team.

Kellen was last seen March 19 having dinner at the Keg Steakhouse at the 200th Street overpass near Langley. After dinner Kellen and his friends went their separate ways. When Kellen didn't show up to work the next day at a Rogers call centre where he worked as a trainer, he was reported missing. His car, a bronze-coloured 2006 Honda Civic, was found March 26 on a quiet street kilometres from his apartment. The car was released to his parents after police searched it for clues and fingerprints.

"They found nothing," says McElwee. "It was the same with the neighbourhood where the car was found. We organized a search, but didn't find anything."

The same night Kellen disappeared, a man was caught on a security camera in his apartment building.

The man, not a resident of the building, wore a distinctive silver winter jacket with the hood pulled up to obscure his face. Police consider the man a person of interest in the case.

McElwee says as far as he, or anyone close to Kellen, knows, the 25-year-old had no ties to drugs or gangs. As McElwee speaks, his eyes occasionally well up with tears.

"When I heard a body had been found under the Knight Street Bridge, I felt sick, but it wasn't Kellen," he says. "It's like a bad dream that won't go away, but I won't entertain the thought he's not coming home. It's only been seven and a half weeks."

As with John Kahler's parents, McElwee and his wife Paula are convinced someone must have seen something. If Kellen's friends and acquaintances have any information, including details his son might not be proud of, McElwee wants them to come forward. A $50,000 reward has been offered for Kellen's safe return. "If anybody knows anything I want to ask them to please call Crime Stoppers. It's anonymous," says McElwee. "All we can do now is keep our fingers crossed."

Derek Kelly's sister Leeanne Kelly, revisits the places she's postered with pictures of her brother. "I want to keep them fresh, because one month went by, then two months, then three months and now four months," she says, fighting back tears.

Like the other families, Kelly sees the physical similarities in the missing men, but can't find any other connection. She also can't believe these men all literally vanished with no sign. "These days, you can't even drive through a red light without it taking your pictures. How can these boys just disappear with no sign?"

She adds in the case of her brother, no one attending the New Year's Eve party at Bridge Lake reported him missing. "The person he drove up with came back without him," she says. "And he still didn't report him missing."

She adds that, tragic as a car accident or a drive-by shooting might be, at least there would be a body and with that some closure.
"Every one of these boys are big, big parts of families and every one of them is unique," she says. "They're a huge missing piece in each of these families."

Chilliwack resident Brandyn Thomas Dirienzo, 20, last seen Oct. 4, 2006.

Abbotsford resident Beric Bason, 26, last seen at Loon Lake July 25, 2007.

Surrey resident Ranvir (Ron) Atwal, 28, last seen April 5, 2004.

White Rock resident Wade MacKenzie, 23, last seen in North Delta Jan. 16, 2008.

Kim Rossmo, one of the leading forensic profilers in North America, says an increase in missing men in B.C. would be hard to determine. "The interest could fluctuate by what's being covered in the media," says Rossmo, a former profiler with the Vancouver Police Department who now leads the Texas State University Center for Geospatial Intelligence and Investigation.

Rossmo sounded the alarm that a serial killer was at work in the Downtown Eastside and is considered a leading expert in geographic profiling and environmental criminology. Rossmo, who left the VPD in 2000 after his contract wasn't renewed and unsuccessfully sued the department for wrongful dismissal, has consulted on more than 200 serial crime cases around the world, involving almost 3,000 crimes. His high-profile cases include the Washington D.C. sniper, the South Side Rapist in Lafayette, Louisiana, and one of the largest manhunts for a serial rapist in Great Britain's history. The pilot for the TV series Numb3rs, was based on Rossmo's work. Rossmo also created a geographic profile for the 2007 movie Zodiac. The thriller is based on a string of unsolved murders in the 1960s that took place in the San Francisco Bay area.

Rossmo says 90 per cent of missing people are found within three weeks, and 98 per cent are found within two months. After that the chance of finding a missing person decreases.

Rossmo says the work of a serial killer in one area of the Lower Mainland could go unnoticed because of the "washout effect."

He explains if you compare a base rate, for example the number of missing men from Burnaby in 2007, to the number in previous years, it might show an increase. But if the base rate is too large, for example the number of missing men in Burnaby in 2007 compared to the average for the province, it will obscure or "wash out" any actual change. "This is because you have included too much of the population unaffected by your agent of change--for example a killer," explains Rossmo. "Just like a disease outbreak may show up on a local level with too many reported cases, the epidemic will disappear if you were examining cases on a national level because the number of local cases is small compared to all the cases in the country."

Rossmo says serial killers typically work close to home. If they kill across a long distance, they have a reason to be in those areas, he adds.

"You should start to see a pattern," he says. "If a serial killer is at work in the Lower Mainland, that's where they'd dump the bodies. But if there are no bodies you don't know that. You have to put on the serial killer's hat and look at this from his perspective, starting with how would you acquire your victi

Rossmo says it's unusual for a serial killer to target young, healthy, heterosexual, middle-class men. Serial killers tend to choose marginalized victims who are easy to abduct or overcome, such as prostitutes or homeless people.

"Prostitutes are fantastic as far as serial killers are concerned because they get in the car and they drive off," says Rossmo. "The same with a skid row bum. The killer simply offers them booze and then gets them into an area where they can take control of them. Children are usually protected, but they're easy to physically overcome if they're not."

Rossmo cites Jeffery Dahmer as an example of a stealth killer. Dahmer picked up men from gay clubs in Milwaukee and dismembered their bodies in his apartment. He also targeted young boys. Rossmo says female serial killers are extremely rare unless they're a custodial killer, such as a woman helping her husband or boyfriend. Examples would be nurses who become killers, or Karla Homolka, who assisted her husband Paul Bernardo in the rape and murders of two teenage girls in Ontario. Homolka and Bernardo were also found responsible for the rape and death of Homolka's sister.

You have to look at the examples and ask, 'Do they fit a pattern?'" says Rossmo. "You have to look at these cases from a hunter's prospective."

Rossmo discounts recent media reports about a possible group of serial killers operating across the U.S. dubbed the Smiley Face Killers. Earlier this year two retired New York police detectives, Kevin Gannon and Anthony Duarte, went public with their theory that the drowning deaths of 40 young healthy men in the U.S. could be the work of a nationwide organization of serial killers. One theory is the killers possibly met online.

In most of the cases the men had been out drinking before they disappeared, each was found in or near water and each case was initially ruled as an accidental drowning. In 2002 the case of victim and Minneapolis, Minn. resident Chris Jenkins was re-opened. Authorities concluded he'd been abducted in a van and tortured before being thrown in the Mississippi River. His death was initially called an accidental drowning. The detectives reported finding a smiley-face drawn near where some of the bodies were found, leading the media to dub the possible murderers as the "Smiley Face Killers."

In Metro Vancouver a number of missing men have been found deceased in and around water in the past several years, and their deaths were deemed suicide or accidental. On May 8 the body of a 22-year old Vancouver man, missing since March 28, was found in the Fraser River.

VPD Const. Tim Fanning, says none of those deaths appear suspicious.

"And our forensics are pretty good," he says. "There's been nothing to raise our suspicions."

Terry Foster, spokesperson for the B.C. Coroner's Office, says there is no news on the mystery of three severed right feet, belonging to men, washed up on the Gulf Islands between August 2007 and February of this year.

Last August a foot was found washed up on the shore of Jedediah Island, the second was found a week later on Gabriola Island and the third was discovered on Valdes Island in February. All the feet were found in sneakers--the first two were size 12.

At the time investigators were trying to determine if the feet were severed using a tool, which would indicate a human was responsible for their removal.

The feet also could have been cut off during a boating accident or naturally detached through decomposition. "The investigation is ongoing," says Foster.

Rossmo advises a pattern or trend in the disappearances of the missing men could point to a serial killer, but until he sees the evidence, he's doubtful. He does note it's unusual no bodies have been found in these recent cases.

"The chances of being killed by a serial killer are smaller than being struck by lightning," says Rossmo. "If you're a prostitute your risk is much higher, but for most people their chance of becoming a murder victim is low."

Kelowna resident Aaron Derbyshire, 22, last seen Sept. 30, 2006.

Kelowna resident Michael Bosma, 26, last seen Jan. 9, 2006.

Kelowna resident John Ernest Patrick, 40, last seen March 21, 2008.

Greenwood resident Gary Hansen, 52, last seen May 27, 2005.

As the June 1, one-year anniversary of her son's disappearance draws near, Janice Braumberger says the grief she feels is as strong now as the day Bryan went missing.

"People think it gets easier with time, but it doesn't," says the Burnaby resident. "I find it unbelievable that that amount of time has passed. For us it doesn't feel like that."

Braumberger wonders about the similarities between her son, McElwee, Kahler and Derek Kelly.

"But there's no way of me finding out," she says. "I'm not about to start contacting those parents because it's really difficult to speak to someone going through the same thing you are. It's tough. But I've looked at the pictures, I've looked at their age and the fact they're all males. I keep thinking there has to be some type of connection."

Braumberger closely follows all media reports related to the other missing men in hopes she'll hear something that could lead to a connection, such as a common interest.

"I keep waiting for one of their friends to say, 'I know that guy,'" she says.

Braumberger often searches the area where her son Bryan's car was found. Close friends also search the area when they have time. They continue to look despite a thorough police search with dogs immediately following the discovery of the car turning up nothing.

"There was nothing in the car. There was nothing around the car. There was no sign of a struggle. There was no blood. There's nothing. Just his car," says Braumberger. "I don't think we're missing anything, but it's as if the earth opened up and swallowed him. It's hard to believe none of these men have been found. Why aren't there any bodies?"

Like the other parents, Braumberger is convinced somebody knows something. She pleads with anyone with information to come forward. Even if they're responsible for Bryan's disappearance, she adds, she wants them to know there are many ways to offer information anonymously. A $30,000 reward is being offered for information regarding Bryan's whereabouts.

"At least give us that," she says. "Dealing with it the way it is now, some days I think, 'My God, I'm going to go crazy.' No one needs to know where the information is coming from. I just hope that someone will eventually have some kind of conscience and say, 'Enough is enough. We can't keep doing this to these people.'"

Anyone with information on these or anyother missing persons cases is asked to call the 24 hour Crime Stoppers toll-free line at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477). Crime Stoppers tipsters are guaranteed they will not have to give their name, be identified or testify in court. Because of this, Crime Stoppers gets valuable information that might not otherwise be provided. Crime Stoppers tipsters could be eligible to receive cash rewards of up to $2,000 upon an arrest and charge on a tip they provided.
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Cst. Amanda Fallis
Mission RCMP
Phone#: (604)820-3535
Mission RCMP at 604-826-7161 or Crime Stoppers at 604-222-8477.

Case #

Name: John KAHLER


Sex: Male

Race: First Nations

Age when missing: 29 YO

Date Missing: November 4, 2007

Birth Date:

Hair Color: blond

Eye Color: blue

Height: 6’2”

Weight: 100 kg and 105 kg

Tattoos: tattoos on his right arm, left shoulder blade and right calf

Piercings:has an eyebrow ring over the right eye


Previous fractures or broken bones:


Clothes last seen wearing: New pair of workboots, jeans and a black Iron Workers hoodie

Jewelry:has an eyebrow ring over the right eye

Location last seen ( city, town, county)

Circumstances: KAHLER was camping in the Stave Lake area of Mission on the evening of November 3. He was reportedly last seen in the early morning hours of Sunday November 4, 2007 " He was last seen near the Mud Flats by Stave Lake around 4 a.m. where hundreds of people had gathered for a weekend-long party, organized by a group of outdoor enthusiasts called"

Vehicle last seen in if any: His white Ford F150 Pick up with crew cab was located approximately 650 feet from the campsite, with the radio on and the engine running.

Work or Hobbies:

Are Dentals, DNA or Fingerprints available( specify)

Additional comments: He was sociable, and healthy. He has had no known connection to crime.

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Disappearance still a mystery
November 25, 2007

$25,000 reward for info on Kahler’s whereabouts Abbotsford News
Police have already spoken to dozens of people, but nobody has offered them any information on where Johnny Kahler might be, or what happened to him.

Kahler, who grew up in Langley, was reported missing Nov. 4 after attending a weekend-long party at an area known as the Mud Flats by Stave Lake.

“We’re still interviewing people,” said Mission RCMP Const. Paul Grewal. “There are still more people we’re interested in talking to.”

Grewal dismissed the rumours that there may have been a confrontation with another group in the area.

Some people were checked out, noted Grewal. “But nobody has said they saw a confrontation and there’s no indication there was an altercation.”

Kahler’s family and some volunteers spent all last week searching for him, but have not found any clues.

Search and rescue crews are satisfied with the searches they have conducted, said Grewal. Police are also satisfied with the air search by helicopter and the search in the water by the RCMP dive team.

Unless there’s new information, or a new area to search, there not be any more formal searches.

It’s unusual for someone to disappear the way Kahler has, said police, who continue to work on the file.

Files like these never get closed, explained Grewal. When all interviews have been conducted, and there are no new clues, the case gets set aside until new leads come up.

Last week Kahler’s family offered a $25,000 reward to anyone with information.

Anyone with information about Kahler’s whereabouts is asked to call Mission RCMP at 604-826-7161 or CrimeStoppers at 1-800-222-8477.
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Family keeps searching
December 19, 2007 | | | |

Christmas has been cancelled at the Kahler home in Langley.

There is no tree, there are no bright lights and no festive music. At a time when the rest of the world is getting ready to celebrate family and spend time with the ones they love, the Kahlers are still desperately trying to find one of their own.

Johnny Kahler disappeared virtually without a trace about a month ago near Stave Lake. His truck was found stuck in a ditch with the engine on and the radio blasting.

Police have interviewed dozens of people, but have not learned why or how Johnny Kahler disappeared.

“I can’t believe it’s the middle of December,” said Lori Kahler, Johnny’s younger sister. “November seems to have disappeared in a day.”

Since her brother’s mysterious disappearance, Lori and her parents, Randy and Jane, have made Stave Lake their second home. After spending every day in the bush for weeks looking for Johnny, they’ve now scaled back their search, and are going up every second day and every weekend. They don’t organize searches anymore because of the cold temperatures, and the unpredictable weather this time of year.

Sometimes friends offer to help, other times they are disappointed when the friends don’t show up and the Kahlers are left standing by the dam, missing out on precious search time.

“It used to be uncomfortable at Stave Lake, but now it’s like our second home,” said Lori. “We go up the same roads, and pass out missing posters to make people aware of what happened.”

The posters, says Lori, are being distributed around the country by those supporting them.

And there’s a lot of support out there, which doesn’t go unrecognized. There’s a Facebook group with over 4,000 members just chatting about what happened to Johnny, said Lori. Most of those people also send their thoughts and prayers to the family. And some people have offered to help the Kahlers with search expenses, and the $25,000 reward that the family is offering for information leading them to Johnny.

The family is ready for either a recovery or rescue, said Lori, who has hundreds of different scenarios run through her head each day about what happened to her brother. Sometimes, depending on her mood, she thinks the chances of finding Johnny alive are very slim. It’s been a long time, she reasoned.

But other times, Lori is hopeful whoever has Johnny will drop him off and let him come home.

“We’re not giving up hope of finding him,” said Lori. “We need someone to come forward to help us.”

It would be nice to celebrate Christmas with Johnny, but the Kahlers are simply looking for closure.

Johnny Kahler was last seen about 4 a.m. Nov. 4 in an area about 15 km up Burma Road in Mission, where hundreds of people had gathered for a weekend party. He is 29 years old and described by police as being 6’2” tall with blue eyes and blonde hair. He weighs between 100 kg and 105 kg and was wearing a new pair of work boots when he disappeared.

Anyone with information about Johnny’s Kahler’s disappearance is asked to contact his family at 604-534-5337, Mission RCMP at 604-826-7161, or CrimeStoppers at 1-800-222-8477.
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'We'll never stop looking'
December 21, 2007 | | | |

Father Randy, mother Jane and sister Lori Kahler issued a plea Wednesday for information about their son and brother Johnny.
Carol Aun
Johnny Kahler’s family made one more heartfelt plea for his return less than a week before Christmas.

His sister Lori, and his parents Jane and Randy met with media Wednesday morning at the Mission RCMP detachment to send out their message.

Johnny has been missing since Nov. 4. He was last seen near the Mud Flats by Stave Lake around 4 a.m. where hundreds of people had gathered for a weekend-long party, organized by a group of outdoor enthusiasts called

The family is offering a $25,000 reward for information that will lead them them to Johnny.

“Please phone us, “ said Lori,

“He’s my only brother ... We need him back. Please call us with any information. Even if the worst has happened, just give him back.”

“We love him and we’ll never stop looking for him,” said Jane.

“He has to be somewhere,” Lori added.

The Kahlers and the RCMP agree Johnny’s disappearance is unusual. Police are still investigating and following up on any leads they receive from people they have interviewed. There were no reports to police of fights or suspicious activity that weekend.

Nobody has called the Crime Stoppers anonymous line, and there have been no inquiries about the reward, said Const. Amanda Fallis, noting the lack of tips on both lines in usual in a case like this.

Police say Johnny’s disappearance is such a mystery, they cannot eliminate foul play, and they also cannot eliminate the possibility that it was accidental.

Johnny’s family, however, believes he got involved with the wrong crowd and something has happened to him.

“The way his vehicle was found, we’ve come to the conclusion that he didn’t put it there,” explained Lori. “It seems it was placed there to throw off the search.”

There were no tracks around the vehicle, like nobody walked out of it, said Lori, but the strange thing was all his belongings — phone, keys and backpack — were inside the truck.

The last time Johnny was seen was around 4 a.m. by the camp fire Nov. 4, but nobody saw him driving his truck, said Fallis.

“There were over 1,000 people there all weekend, and a couple of hundred on Sunday,” said Lori. “It’s odd that nobody saw anything.”

Lori believes there’s someone out there with crucial information that can help her family.

“I think there’s a small group of people [involved in Johnny’s disappearance],” she stated. “I hope they have the decency to come forward and let us know where Johnny is.”

Lori knows there has been speculation that her brother disappeared because he wanted to start a new life for himself, but she firmly believes that’s not true because Johnny had “finally made it to where he wanted to be ... He loved his life.”

Johnny was very proud to be an iron worker and talked all weekend long about his work on the Olympic ski jumps in Whistler, Lori added.

The Kahlers continue to search for Johnny.

“It’s a nightmare. We just don’t know what to do,” said Lori.

Johnny is 29 years old and described by police as being 6’2” tall with blue eyes and blonde hair. He weighs between 100 kg and 105 kg and has an eyebrow ring over the right eye. Johnny also has tattoos on his right arm, left shoulder blade and right calf. He was last seen wearing a pair of new work boots, jeans and a black Iron Workers hoodie. Anyone with information about Johnny Kahler’s disappearance is asked to call Mission RCMP at 604-826-7161 or Crime Stoppers at 604-222-8477.
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A police dive team is joining the search today for a missing 29-year-old man in northern Mission.

John Kahler, a Langley resident, was last seen about 4 a.m. Sunday morning, said Const. Fred Ritchie.

According to police, Kahler was camping in an area about 15 km up Burma Road, where approximately 300 outdoor enthusiasts from across the Lower Mainland had gathered for a weekend party. Kahler, who police say is not an experienced outdoor enthusiast, and possessed little camping and outdoor skills, had gone up to the area with two of his friends and he did not know anyone else in the group.

Kahler and his friends went up in separate vehicles.

His pickup truck, a white Ford F150, was found stuck in a ditch about 200 metres from the campsite, with the engine still running at 6:30 a.m. by one of his friends who left early.

His friend didn't think much about it and left, said Ritchie.

The other friend Kahler was with pulled the truck out and drove it down around mid-afternoon. He looked around for Kahler, but couldn't find him.

At this point, nobody was worried, said Ritchie, noting his friends assumed Kahler had spent the night at one of the other campsites, or had found a ride down with someone else.

Kahler's friend called his family and his girlfriend, asking if they had heard from him. It was around 9 p.m. when Kahler's parents notified RCMP and went to the area to search for him.

Since it was dark, and most people were leaving the camp site, they only searched for a short time, said Ritchie.

Kahler's friends and family didn't start panicking until the next morning when Kahler didn't show up for work in Whistler, where he was building ski jumps for the 2010 Olympics.

That's when police and search and rescue crews formally began their search. A police boat, K9 unit, helicopter and about 70 search and rescue volunteers from Chilliwack, Surrey, Maple Ridge, Abbotsford and Mission scoured the area, but didn't turn up any signs of the missing man.

Kahler is described by police as being 6'2" tall with blue eyes and blonde hair. He weighs between 100 kg. to 105 kg. and was wearing a pair of new work boots. He was not dressed for long term exposure to the cold elements, say police.

RCMP continue to investigate and are interested in speaking to a woman named Cassy, who was one of the last people to be seen talking to Kahler.

"She may or may not have more information," said Ritchie, who notes police are treating this as a missing person case and there is no reason to suspect anything else at the moment.

Anyone who may have seen Kahler, or has information regarding his whereabouts, is asked to contact Mission RCMP at 604-826-7161.

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Mission Mounties and search and rescue teams are scouring the northern reaches of the district Monday trying to find a missing man.
According to Mission RCMP's Sgt. Greg Pridday, a male went missing at approximately 4 a.m. Sunday, but was not reported absent until 9:30 p.m.
At that point it was too dark to begin a search, said Pridday, but RCMP officers, a dog team and Mission Search and Rescue members went up Burma Lake Road to try and locate the man.
The missing person's truck was found, but unfortunately a friend had moved it, so search teams had to get the friend to show them where the truck was originally so they could determine a start point, said Pridday.
According to an off-road enthusiasts' website,, the missing man was driving a white four-door Ford F150. The vehicle was found stuck, with the motor still running.
Anyone with information should call Mission RCMP at 604-826-7161.
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this is his truck stuck in the same hole at about 1:21/ 1:25 into the video
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Missing man's family awaits autopsy result
The Canadian Press

October 21, 2008

Surrey -- It will be at least a week before a Surrey family can expect an answer in the disappearance of a loved one.

The family of 20-year-old John Kahler have been searching for him since he vanished last November while camping at Stave Lake.

A body was found in the lake on the weekend, about five kilometres from where Mr. Kahler was last seen.

RCMP in Mission say identification of the remains can't be made until after an autopsy slated for next week.
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John Kahler's body has been found & identified. Nearly a year after he went missing, a kayaker found his body in Stave Lake. The cause of death (whether drowning or foul play) hasn't been reported yet. sad.gif RIP John.
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Langley Times

Body in Stave Lake is Johnny Kahler: RCMP

By Monique Tamminga - Langley Times

Published: October 21, 2008 4:00 PM
Updated: October 22, 2008 8:51 PM An autopsy has confirmed the body found in Stave Lake is that of missing Langley man Johnny Kahler.

His body was found by a boater on the weekend, about five kilometres from where he was last seen almost a year ago.

Mission RCMP confirmed his identity late Tuesday afternoon. His family has been notified.

Kahler, 29, was 4x4ing and camping with hundreds of others the night he went missing on Nov. 4, 2007. His truck was found stuck in the mud with the engine still running and the radio still on.

Search teams and RCMP immediately began to look for Kahler, with nearly 100 friends helping comb the area for him the next day.

Even after police stopped searching, the Kahler family never did. His grieving family put up missing posters with John's picture throughout Langley, Mission and Maple Ridge.

The Mission RCMP general investigation section has taken over the case and the cause of death wasn't known by presstime.

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WEB EXTRA: Kahler family thank searchers, begin healing process

By Monique Tamminga - Langley Times

Published: October 22, 2008 4:00 PM
Updated: October 22, 2008 6:04 PM Preliminary evidence suggests foul play was not involved in the death of Johnny Kahler, Mission RCMP said Wednesday.

Kahler's remains were recovered from Stave Lake last Saturday after a kayaker saw a body floating in the water. An autopsy confirmed his identity. The Langley man had been missing since November 2007, when his truck was discovered, still running, only 200 metres from Stave Lake campsite.

Flanked by parents Jane and Randy, Kahler's sister Lori thanked all the people who participated in the search for her brother.

"We're so grateful to everyone who searched, to the RCMP, and to the kayaker who found him," she said at a press conference Wednesday.

"These last couple of days have been as intense as when he first went missing," she continued, "but now the healing process can start."

"We love John and we're happy to have him back," said Jane Kahler.

"I don't know how to say this, but we're lucky. You just can't imagine what it's like when you have no idea what happened."

The Kahlers described John as an "amazing person" and "a hard worker."

"He was the best brother I could imagine having," Lori said. "He lived life. At his age he had done more than most 50-year-olds."

No funeral arrangements have been made, as Mission RCMP and the B.C. Coroner Service continue to investigate.
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