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Dragon Cave Role-Plays, What do you think should be done?
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Well, I'm out of ideas for trying to revert DCF RP's back to the way they they were before the new mods changed it into literate only rp's.
Here's what I did:
1. Message to TJ: [QUOTE=ViperSwan Nov 18 2009, 07:01 PM] I think your RP mods have gone a liiiiittle overboard with the rules. They seem to forget the fact that this is a kid's site and that kids 8-10 years old don't have 'perfect' grammar. Please help us out!/QUOTE] Reply: None...
2. Posted a reply on Khallayne's "A Heads Up!, A degrading role-plays project" trying to let her see the errors of her ways: [QUOTE=ViperSwan Dec 7 2009, 07:26 AM] Aww, this was so much fun because it felt as if you were taking part in the adventure yourself.[/QUOTE] Reply: [quote= CYDA LUVA83 Dec 8 2009, 12:54 PM] The truth appears in the quote above [/quote] Reply: [quote= Khallayne Dec 8 2009, 01:26 PM] Yes, but everyone else is posting in third person. Trying to convert a first person response to a third person isn't always easy. And frankly, your dragons are in the RP, not you yourself. Often when someone writes in first person, they don't give enough information for another person to reply to, from my experience with it.]
3. Posted a reply on Khallayne's "Khay’s Very Basic Guide to Longer Posts!, This is just the beginning!": [quote=ViperSwan Dec 8 2009, 12:51 AM] *Sigh* Posting in here in the RP section used to be fun because no one had to worry about what they posted or how long it needed to be. Please try to remember that kids 8-12 on this site don't have perfect grammar or spelling.[/quote] Reply: [Quote=Khallayne Dec 8 2009, 05:57 AM] I'm sorry, I never said that they had perfect grammar or spelling. Per rules, our content can go as high as PG 13, which means that it might not always be advisable for some younger ones. No one is stopping someone with spelling and grammar that isn't ideal from joining role-plays. But there are also tools available to everyone via the internet in order to correct spelling errors, no matter the age. Also keep in mind that not all 8-12 year olds have bad grammar or spelling either.[/quote]
So, I've come to the conclusion that trying to show her is just like trying to teach an apple to dance. What do you think should be done?
This post has been edited by ViperSwan on Dec 8 2009, 10:38 AM
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Never draw with an Exacto!
My favorite saying is Normal is boring!
The Best advice I have ever given:
CYDA LUVA83: thank you Tark said looking down at the water flowing so easily in the creek Why is waters life so easy, all it has to do is flow through the twisting bends of the creek Tark splashed his reflection with his wing *sighs and goes back into the cave* why isn't my life like water he mutters I'm only half-demon why can't I be full vampire? he thought.
ViperSwan: Opaque caught his distress and sent him a telepathic message: Life is a lot like water. Sometimes it flows freely over the rocks, yet other times it is dammed by the rocks or dried up by the sun. Only you decide when to give up. Are you going to let the dam win, or are you going to figure out a way to push the dam out of the way just like the mighty river?
CYDA LUVA83: sometimes the dam is made out of natural rock and hard diamond what do you do then?
ViperSwan: There are always cracks in natural rock, young demon, that you will find easy to burst free from. The water corrodes many things over time, even diamond doesn't stand a chance against it. Opaque thought.
CYDA LUVA83: alright. Oh great the kings reinforcments *hears knights armor clinking in the distance*
ViperSwan: Remember, are you going to let a giant golden rock stand in your way of flowing freely? Only you choose. Opaque thought fading out on the last word.
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| NinjaDragon |
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Thank you for making this topic.
I was about to make a topic like this, asking for thoughts about the current DCF RPs. Unfortunately, I have no idea of what should be done to correct this, seeing as the mods are demanding 5 sentences PER post. Some people like me may find it moderately easy, however, not everyone is the same person.
My current thoughts about the RPs is that they're kind of losing the fun. I mean, when I first registered, I loved RPing, they were very fun! Time passed... most of my RPs died OR lost the fun, there's only ONE RP I'm in on DCF.
EDIT: To solve the 'Z0MG I CANOT WRITEZ 5 SENTENCEZ!!!' or 'Z0MG MAH GR4MM4R SOX!!!!!111' problems, how about splitting up the RPs in like, three categories, for example: Beginner, Intermediate and Advanced? Beginner would have low requirements (example: you don't need to write 99 sentences each post). Intermediate would be a step up, say, you need good grammar and like 5+ sentences each post. Advanced would be for the 'Master' RPers, who can write more than 5 paragraphs and have an incredible grammar.
This post has been edited by NinjaDragon on Dec 8 2009, 06:21 PM
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| QUOTE | Survivor: Nice dino... be a nice dino... Grimlock: RAWR! Me Grimlock not be a nice dino! Me bash brainz! Survivor: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Grimlock: *eats him* Tastes like chicken. |
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Good idea, maybe we should add that here as well.
{Edit: *Sigh* I don't think DCF will ever change it's RP's rules. TJ has read my e-mail but no action has been taken. I'm starting to think TJ actually agrees with them.}
This post has been edited by ViperSwan on Dec 8 2009, 07:24 PM
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Never draw with an Exacto!
My favorite saying is Normal is boring!
The Best advice I have ever given:
CYDA LUVA83: thank you Tark said looking down at the water flowing so easily in the creek Why is waters life so easy, all it has to do is flow through the twisting bends of the creek Tark splashed his reflection with his wing *sighs and goes back into the cave* why isn't my life like water he mutters I'm only half-demon why can't I be full vampire? he thought.
ViperSwan: Opaque caught his distress and sent him a telepathic message: Life is a lot like water. Sometimes it flows freely over the rocks, yet other times it is dammed by the rocks or dried up by the sun. Only you decide when to give up. Are you going to let the dam win, or are you going to figure out a way to push the dam out of the way just like the mighty river?
CYDA LUVA83: sometimes the dam is made out of natural rock and hard diamond what do you do then?
ViperSwan: There are always cracks in natural rock, young demon, that you will find easy to burst free from. The water corrodes many things over time, even diamond doesn't stand a chance against it. Opaque thought.
CYDA LUVA83: alright. Oh great the kings reinforcments *hears knights armor clinking in the distance*
ViperSwan: Remember, are you going to let a giant golden rock stand in your way of flowing freely? Only you choose. Opaque thought fading out on the last word.
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@MD, They have, illiterate(banned), Semi-Literate, Literate and Advanced type RP's the rule for 5+ Sentences is going to Semi-Literate, and as LD had said, they're may be one liners, but they're shouldn't be. (Might as well be saying occasional one liners, or only two sentences in Semi-Lit rp's are allowed, now Khay and Dark wish to change this to +5 sentences)
@Viper, TJ more than likely does agree with them, otherwise i doubt he would have made them mod's.
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@CJ7, what I mean was, like, splitting up them in DIFFERENT forums. Oh well, I guess this isn't going to happen anytime soon.
I don't see anything wrong about that rule, in fact, I kinda like it, because it encourages people to write MUCH better posts. The problem is that not everyone can write 5+ sentences each post.
| QUOTE (Khallayne Dec 8 2009 @ 05:57 AM) | I'm sorry, I never said that they had perfect grammar or spelling. Per rules, our content can go as high as PG 13, which means that it might not always be advisable for some younger ones. No one is stopping someone with spelling and grammar that isn't ideal from joining role-plays. But there are also tools available to everyone via the internet in order to correct spelling errors, no matter the age. Also keep in mind that not all 8-12 year olds have bad grammar or spelling either. |
True, but not ALL of them.
If anyone wants an example of how fun not having to write 5 sentences is. Who likes mini-RPing at Dark Velgon's RS Clan Chat?
| QUOTE (Grimlock) | RAWR! Me Grimlock not be a nice dino! Me bash brainz! |
This post has been edited by NinjaDragon on Dec 9 2009, 07:37 AM
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| QUOTE | Survivor: Nice dino... be a nice dino... Grimlock: RAWR! Me Grimlock not be a nice dino! Me bash brainz! Survivor: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Grimlock: *eats him* Tastes like chicken. |
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| QUOTE (NinjaDragon @ Dec 10 2009, 02:35 AM) | | If anyone wants an example of how fun not having to write 5 sentences is. Who likes mini-RPing at Dark Velgon's RS Clan Chat? |
 Lol, I'm already guilty of doing that and yeah, it's pretty fun! Although trying to fit everything you want to say on one line does get annoying at times... Besides, I'm a terribly slow typist >.< Some people on Rs even give me a hard time about answering straight away. Adding five sentances to that would possibly take an eternity for me... >_> This post has been edited by ViperSwan on Dec 9 2009, 12:44 PM
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Never draw with an Exacto!
My favorite saying is Normal is boring!
The Best advice I have ever given:
CYDA LUVA83: thank you Tark said looking down at the water flowing so easily in the creek Why is waters life so easy, all it has to do is flow through the twisting bends of the creek Tark splashed his reflection with his wing *sighs and goes back into the cave* why isn't my life like water he mutters I'm only half-demon why can't I be full vampire? he thought.
ViperSwan: Opaque caught his distress and sent him a telepathic message: Life is a lot like water. Sometimes it flows freely over the rocks, yet other times it is dammed by the rocks or dried up by the sun. Only you decide when to give up. Are you going to let the dam win, or are you going to figure out a way to push the dam out of the way just like the mighty river?
CYDA LUVA83: sometimes the dam is made out of natural rock and hard diamond what do you do then?
ViperSwan: There are always cracks in natural rock, young demon, that you will find easy to burst free from. The water corrodes many things over time, even diamond doesn't stand a chance against it. Opaque thought.
CYDA LUVA83: alright. Oh great the kings reinforcments *hears knights armor clinking in the distance*
ViperSwan: Remember, are you going to let a giant golden rock stand in your way of flowing freely? Only you choose. Opaque thought fading out on the last word.
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@VS, I agree to everything. (especially the fun part)
Another protest is about 'first person RPing'. I might be hard to understand, but I think there are some people that can RP in first person exceptionally well, however, they have some difficulty RPing in third person. Unlikely, though. I never gave it a shot because I don't know how... :P
Also. If they raise it to more than 6-8+ sentences, I'll quit. :/ And probably more will. That's just way too rigid, and RPs WILL lose the fun.
This post has been edited by NinjaDragon on Dec 9 2009, 02:49 PM
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| QUOTE (NinjaDragon @ Dec 9 2009, 08:35 AM) | If anyone wants an example of how fun not having to write 5 sentences is. Who likes mini-RPing at Dark Velgon's RS Clan Chat?
| QUOTE (Grimlock) | RAWR! Me Grimlock not be a nice dino! Me bash brainz! |
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That made me fall out of my chair laughing.  | QUOTE (Khallayne Dec 8 2009 @ 05:57 AM) | Also keep in mind that not all 8-12 year olds have bad grammar or spelling either. |
And not all 8-12 year olds have good grammar/spelling either, some do, but not all.
| QUOTE (md) | Also. If they raise it to more than 6-8+ sentences, I'll quit. :/ And probably more will. That's just way too rigid, and RPs WILL lose the fun. |
I will go back so long as it's only a 5 sentence limit, 6+ sentences though, I won't go back/will quit again.
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I only quit because of school work but now that I'm on break, I won't return.
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Never draw with an Exacto!
My favorite saying is Normal is boring!
The Best advice I have ever given:
CYDA LUVA83: thank you Tark said looking down at the water flowing so easily in the creek Why is waters life so easy, all it has to do is flow through the twisting bends of the creek Tark splashed his reflection with his wing *sighs and goes back into the cave* why isn't my life like water he mutters I'm only half-demon why can't I be full vampire? he thought.
ViperSwan: Opaque caught his distress and sent him a telepathic message: Life is a lot like water. Sometimes it flows freely over the rocks, yet other times it is dammed by the rocks or dried up by the sun. Only you decide when to give up. Are you going to let the dam win, or are you going to figure out a way to push the dam out of the way just like the mighty river?
CYDA LUVA83: sometimes the dam is made out of natural rock and hard diamond what do you do then?
ViperSwan: There are always cracks in natural rock, young demon, that you will find easy to burst free from. The water corrodes many things over time, even diamond doesn't stand a chance against it. Opaque thought.
CYDA LUVA83: alright. Oh great the kings reinforcments *hears knights armor clinking in the distance*
ViperSwan: Remember, are you going to let a giant golden rock stand in your way of flowing freely? Only you choose. Opaque thought fading out on the last word.
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I also think that one factor that can make RPs fun or boring is if you are friends with the RPers on the RP. Usually I enjoy RPs where I'm not ignored and if I am friends with the people there. On RPs I don't even know the RPers though, I seem to have less fun there.
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| QUOTE | Survivor: Nice dino... be a nice dino... Grimlock: RAWR! Me Grimlock not be a nice dino! Me bash brainz! Survivor: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Grimlock: *eats him* Tastes like chicken. |
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| QUOTE (NinjaDragon @ Dec 10 2009, 09:51 AM) | | I also think that one factor that can make RPs fun or boring is if you are friends with the RPers on the RP. Usually I enjoy RPs where I'm not ignored and if I am friends with the people there. On RPs I don't even know the RPers though, I seem to have less fun there. |
Agreed, when i was new i just wanted to RP in general, now I'd rather RP with friends than a bunch of people i don't know.
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How about 'no off-topic OOC'? Not being able to chat (note: not about the RP) with RPers is really lame. One of the RPs I'm in got a mod's visit because we were typing a crapload of OOC. Now, we all are like this:
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| QUOTE | Survivor: Nice dino... be a nice dino... Grimlock: RAWR! Me Grimlock not be a nice dino! Me bash brainz! Survivor: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Grimlock: *eats him* Tastes like chicken. |
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| QUOTE (NinjaDragon @ Dec 11 2009, 03:54 PM) | How about 'no off-topic OOC'? Not being able to chat (note: not about the RP) with RPers is really lame. One of the RPs I'm in got a mod's visit because we were typing a crapload of OOC. Now, we all are like this:
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Yes, that is also annoying if i quit again that'll be part of why i quit. (haven't gone back yet but will soon)
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By the way, they should consider whose language isn't English. I said that once and Khay said her wasn't either but her English is good. She also said I would improve.
Still, not everyone has good English.
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| QUOTE | Survivor: Nice dino... be a nice dino... Grimlock: RAWR! Me Grimlock not be a nice dino! Me bash brainz! Survivor: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Grimlock: *eats him* Tastes like chicken. |
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Yeah, I hate not being able to just straight out rp instead of worrying if what I've posted was good enough for the Mods.
This post has been edited by ViperSwan on Dec 17 2009, 06:29 AM
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Never draw with an Exacto!
My favorite saying is Normal is boring!
The Best advice I have ever given:
CYDA LUVA83: thank you Tark said looking down at the water flowing so easily in the creek Why is waters life so easy, all it has to do is flow through the twisting bends of the creek Tark splashed his reflection with his wing *sighs and goes back into the cave* why isn't my life like water he mutters I'm only half-demon why can't I be full vampire? he thought.
ViperSwan: Opaque caught his distress and sent him a telepathic message: Life is a lot like water. Sometimes it flows freely over the rocks, yet other times it is dammed by the rocks or dried up by the sun. Only you decide when to give up. Are you going to let the dam win, or are you going to figure out a way to push the dam out of the way just like the mighty river?
CYDA LUVA83: sometimes the dam is made out of natural rock and hard diamond what do you do then?
ViperSwan: There are always cracks in natural rock, young demon, that you will find easy to burst free from. The water corrodes many things over time, even diamond doesn't stand a chance against it. Opaque thought.
CYDA LUVA83: alright. Oh great the kings reinforcments *hears knights armor clinking in the distance*
ViperSwan: Remember, are you going to let a giant golden rock stand in your way of flowing freely? Only you choose. Opaque thought fading out on the last word.
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My opinions, now: 1. 5+ Sentences - Has two sides. The good one is that it'll improve (mostly) the RPs's quality, I started disliking one-liners when I started my way to semi-literate. I think it's nice, but the bad news start when you have a writer block (have no idea of what to write). I'd suggest toning it a bit down, like, 2-3 sentences for semi-literate, or re-open Illiterate (or re-open it as 'Beginner'?). 2. Anti-1st person RPing - sure, people may dislike it, but going after it just plain sounds racist. :/ If the OP don't want it, simply put on the rules... 3. Offtopic OOC - Not being able to chat with other RPers, like I said, failz. However, pure OOC posts (AKA: Spam) should and MUST be targeted. 4. Illiterate RP ban - Yep, GF Illiteracy. Kind of a good move, I like simple RPs but Quality RPs...  If you think I'm wrong, look at Unapproved, I saw many crap RPs some times. Encourages people to improve. Once a RP called New Beginnings was threatened to be shut down due to the low quality posts, but it looked fun and everyone seemed to be friends there. It's better now, but, if it were to be closed, I'd be quite angry. And I'm itching to try out my new huge @$$ Shotgun model that can shoot 50kg shotgun shells!Aaaaaaaaaand that's all for now.
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| QUOTE | Survivor: Nice dino... be a nice dino... Grimlock: RAWR! Me Grimlock not be a nice dino! Me bash brainz! Survivor: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Grimlock: *eats him* Tastes like chicken. |
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Bump! And just to add... being literate is writting posts with good grammar and stuff, not writting 100+ paragraphs with horrible grammar. Remember, quality over quantity.
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| QUOTE | Survivor: Nice dino... be a nice dino... Grimlock: RAWR! Me Grimlock not be a nice dino! Me bash brainz! Survivor: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Grimlock: *eats him* Tastes like chicken. |
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| QUOTE (Lord MD @ Dec 18 2009, 03:19 AM) | | And I'm itching to try out my new huge @$$ Shotgun model that can shoot 50kg shotgun shells! |
 . Yeah, although it may take me longer to post I'll use 5+ sentances from now on. I'll try my best to keep up pace.... I know everyone around me hates to change their post after I've changed mine to fit the story >.< I've recieved a message from Mouldy: Your comment in the DC Pinned Topics... Could you explain what you mean by that to me? I'm not going to get you into trouble or anything, I'm just curious about all the anger vibes coming from you. My Reply: I would like to apologize for my behavior. I should not have said what I did and I am ashamed for what I've said. Please forgive me but these are the reasons I have quit the Role-playing section: 1. My hands shake badly therefore I cannot post as quickly throwing off some of the faster typists and causing me to take about an hour to thirty minutes to make each post. This is a medical problem I cannot help! 2. It would take even longer if I had to go back over my work just to see if it's suitable to actually post. My brain doesn't work quite as fast as a normal person's would. it takes me a while to read through and catch each missed comma; please forgive me for that. This post has been edited by ViperSwan on Apr 2 2010, 12:17 AM
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Never draw with an Exacto!
My favorite saying is Normal is boring!
The Best advice I have ever given:
CYDA LUVA83: thank you Tark said looking down at the water flowing so easily in the creek Why is waters life so easy, all it has to do is flow through the twisting bends of the creek Tark splashed his reflection with his wing *sighs and goes back into the cave* why isn't my life like water he mutters I'm only half-demon why can't I be full vampire? he thought.
ViperSwan: Opaque caught his distress and sent him a telepathic message: Life is a lot like water. Sometimes it flows freely over the rocks, yet other times it is dammed by the rocks or dried up by the sun. Only you decide when to give up. Are you going to let the dam win, or are you going to figure out a way to push the dam out of the way just like the mighty river?
CYDA LUVA83: sometimes the dam is made out of natural rock and hard diamond what do you do then?
ViperSwan: There are always cracks in natural rock, young demon, that you will find easy to burst free from. The water corrodes many things over time, even diamond doesn't stand a chance against it. Opaque thought.
CYDA LUVA83: alright. Oh great the kings reinforcments *hears knights armor clinking in the distance*
ViperSwan: Remember, are you going to let a giant golden rock stand in your way of flowing freely? Only you choose. Opaque thought fading out on the last word.
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((Bump))
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Never draw with an Exacto!
My favorite saying is Normal is boring!
The Best advice I have ever given:
CYDA LUVA83: thank you Tark said looking down at the water flowing so easily in the creek Why is waters life so easy, all it has to do is flow through the twisting bends of the creek Tark splashed his reflection with his wing *sighs and goes back into the cave* why isn't my life like water he mutters I'm only half-demon why can't I be full vampire? he thought.
ViperSwan: Opaque caught his distress and sent him a telepathic message: Life is a lot like water. Sometimes it flows freely over the rocks, yet other times it is dammed by the rocks or dried up by the sun. Only you decide when to give up. Are you going to let the dam win, or are you going to figure out a way to push the dam out of the way just like the mighty river?
CYDA LUVA83: sometimes the dam is made out of natural rock and hard diamond what do you do then?
ViperSwan: There are always cracks in natural rock, young demon, that you will find easy to burst free from. The water corrodes many things over time, even diamond doesn't stand a chance against it. Opaque thought.
CYDA LUVA83: alright. Oh great the kings reinforcments *hears knights armor clinking in the distance*
ViperSwan: Remember, are you going to let a giant golden rock stand in your way of flowing freely? Only you choose. Opaque thought fading out on the last word.
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