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| Space4Eles |
Posted: Dec 5 2011, 01:39 PM
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The Elephant Refuge and Education Centre (EREC)
This centre gives refuge to domesticated elephants that have been roaming the streets of Bangkok and other cities ... The Wildlife Friends of Thailand currently run a program to keep the domestic elephants of the streets of Bangkok and other big cities, and support a pilot project where wild elephants are being kept in the forest near domestic elephants. http://www.wfft.org/EREC.html -------------------- "They need to move and have stimulation. They need to be browsing, foraging, socialising. They need to have reason for movement." Pat Derby, PAWS, on elephants' needs.
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| Space4Eles |
Posted: Dec 5 2011, 01:41 PM
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Photostream with report posted on WFFT Facebook today:
Elephant Rescue - Hua Hin | December 2011 This elephant needs urgent rescue. Prachuab, an old female elephant that has been working at elephant camps carrying around tourists for the last 30 years needs your help! She is a very tall elephant that is way to skinny for her age and size, still at work every day at an elephant camp near the WFFT center. As you can see on some of the pictures she has wounds from hits with the bull-hook and from the wooden frame with seats for tourists. We would love to rescue Prachuab URGENTLY, and get her out of the elephant camp PERMANENTLY, to have her RETIRE NOW! PLease donate towards Prachuab's rescue so can get the treatment, love and care she so badly needs. Every amount small or big will make this happen!!! For those people that are confused after the bad news yesterday, we received complaints only 3 days ago about Prachuab, we are not trying to replace Yuy, the elephant that passed away yesterday. The problems is however that Yuy and Prachuab are two out of many that need(ed) help... https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=160...11827656&type=3 -------------------- "They need to move and have stimulation. They need to be browsing, foraging, socialising. They need to have reason for movement." Pat Derby, PAWS, on elephants' needs.
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| Space4Eles |
Posted: Dec 5 2011, 01:50 PM
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WFFT has recently rescued BUA NGUN, JUNE and YUY.
Information about these 3 elephants has been posted on other forums. BUA NGUN (Silver Lotus) - Rescue, Retirement, Relocation Forum: http://z13.invisionfree.com/Elephant_Comme...p?showtopic=316 JUNE – Rescue, Retirement, Relocation Forum: http://z13.invisionfree.com/Elephant_Comme...p?showtopic=342 YUY – Rescue, Retirement, Relocation Forum: http://z13.invisionfree.com/Elephant_Comme...=994&st=0last Sadly, YUY was at WFFT only 5 days before she died. Elephant Deaths Forum: http://z13.invisionfree.com/Elephant_Comme...1023&st=0last -------------------- "They need to move and have stimulation. They need to be browsing, foraging, socialising. They need to have reason for movement." Pat Derby, PAWS, on elephants' needs.
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| Space4Eles |
Posted: Feb 16 2012, 03:50 AM
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Thai officials raid wildlife sanctuary
Between 60 and 70 armed officials raided Edwin Wiek, founder and secretary-general of the Wildlife Friends Foundation Thailand (WFFT), on Monday at 11.00 am amid claims that the wildlife sanctuary had illegal possession of 20 elephants. The WFFT have 6 legal elephants in their possession which are looked after by 3 handlers. http://wildlifenews.co.uk/2012/thai-offici...life-sanctuary/ -------------------- "They need to move and have stimulation. They need to be browsing, foraging, socialising. They need to have reason for movement." Pat Derby, PAWS, on elephants' needs.
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 16 2012, 03:04 PM
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This page updated Feb. 25th. Can be copy & pasted; links shortened.
A/o Feb 22 petition has been reopened. Please sign the petition if you haven't already. Lek & Edwin desperately need our support. Tweet/share petition short link: http://tiny.cc/thairaid See also related posts: ENP: http://bit.ly/w2SEXM EREC/WFFT: http://bit.ly/wnUb31 The history: http://bit.ly/xalBg8 http://bit.ly/A2miYm Follow updates on WFFT FB: http://tiny.cc/wfftfb Resource Center: http://tiny.cc/wfftrc Edwin & Lek NEED our help to get this to the international press. If anyone can help, please do. Media of Thailand: http://bit.ly/crK70d How to Help (link to this post): http://tiny.cc/wffthelp Short link to this post for tweeting/sharing is: http://bit.ly/zzsNuD -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 17 2012, 12:47 AM
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Here are videos documenting the animal abuse the Thai government officials are forcing on the EREC/WFFT other-animals. WARNING: Hard to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/user/LaureneWFFT?feature=watch -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 17 2012, 01:05 AM
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Video just posted: Edwin explaining situation. Animals being tortured.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaxCukNCp1k...NbSsczGW5Y8mUbA -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 17 2012, 02:18 AM
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Please contact the Thai Embassy and tell them this needs to stop.
Royal Thai Embassy, 1024 Wisconsin Ave., N.W. Washington D.C. 20007 Tel. (202) 944-3600 Fax. (202) 944-3611 information@thaiembdc.org consular@thaiembdc.org Source page: http://thaiembdc.us/wpdc/ Someone's letter posted on FB: http://www.facebook.com/AnimalPlanet/posts/10150582174263375 More contacts here: http://tiny.cc/wfftfb Email addys added Feb 23: thaican@mfa.go.th, contact@thaiembassy.ca, info@thaicongenvancouver.org, embassy@thaivienna.at, thaiembbrazil@gmail.com, thaigug@mfa.go.th, mail@thaiembassy.dk, general@thaiembassy.de, thaidel@mfa.go.th, romeemb@yahoo.com, thai@thainbi.or.ke, thaitip@mfa.go.th, thaiemb@thaiembnepal.org.np, thaivisa@online.no, thaidoh@qatar.net.qa, info@thaiembassy.co.za, thaiauh@emirates.net.ae, thaiembargen@fibertel.com.ar, thaiemb@brunet.bn, sthai01@thai-consulate.org.hk, thaicnn@mfa.go.th, thaijkm@mfa.go.th, infosect@thaiembassy.jp, thaiemkw@kems.net, thaiembassy.thehague@gmail.com, rteseoul@kornet.net, mission.thailand@ties.itu.int, info@thaiconsulatela.org, info@thaiconsulatevietnam.com, thaikmg@public.km.yn.cn, thaixcg@gmail.com, consulate@thaiembassy.fi, thaiath@otenet.gr, thaiccu@mfa.go.th, thaiccu@airtelmail.in, info@thaiembassy-tehran.org, thaikula@mfa.go.th, thaiemb@dslplus.net.pk, thaiemb@thaiemb.internetdsl.pl, thaibuh@speedmail.ro, thaidkr@sentoo.sn, thaicmb@sltnet.lk, csinfo@thaiembassyuk.org.uk, info@thaiconsulnewyork.com, thaisydney@thaiconsulatesydney.org, thaibxl@thaiembassy.be, consular@thaiembassy.ca, thaiemb@volny.cz, thaiemba@mail.datanet.hu, ambrd@mail.datanet.hu, thaimub@mfa.go.th, thaisr@netvision.net.il, thaikob@mfa.go.th, thai.lis@mail.telepac.pt, consular@thaiembassymoscow.com, consular@thaiembassy.sg, consular@thaiembassy.se, thaiank@ttmail.com, consular@thaiembdc.org, prforeign@thailand.prd.go.th, info@thephuketnews.com, DNP addys: dg@dnp.go.th, samran_r@dnp.go.th, ddg_enforcement@dnp.go.th, dg_technical@dnp.go.th, ssdnp@dnp.go.th, ig@dnp.go.th, iau@dnp.go.th, asdu@dnp.go.th, cao@dnp.go.th, dwffp@dnp.go.th, lad@dnp.go.th, fpfco@dnp.go.th, pio@dnp.go.th, pardo@dnp.go.th, fro@dnp.go.th, wcmo@dnp.go.th, wco@dnp.go.th, npo@dnp.go.th, paro1@dnp.go.th paro2@dnp.go.th, paro3@dnp.go.th, paro4@dnp.go.th, paro5@dnp.go.th, paro6@dnp.go.th, paro7@dnp.go.th, paro8@dnp.go.th, paro9@dnp.go.th, paro10@dnp.go.th, paro11@dnp.go.th, paro12@dnp.go.th, paro13@dnp.go.th, paro14@dnp.go.th, paro15@dnp.go.th, paro16@dnp.go.th, parob1@dnp.go.th, parob3@dnp.go.th, parob6@dnp.go.th, parob13@dnp.go.th, parob16@dnp.go.th -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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| spiritedlulu |
Posted: Feb 17 2012, 02:19 PM
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Armed Thai Officials Raid Wildlife Rescue NGO
On Monday morning, February 13, 60 armed agents from the Thailand Department of National Parks and the Thai paramilitary Border Patrol Police raided non-profit wildlife rescue facility Wildlife Friends Foundation Thailand in Petchaburi about three hours southwest of Bangkok. According to accounts by Wildlife Friends Foundation Thailand, Jansaeng Sangnanork, wife of founder Edwin Wiek, was arrested and escorted by 30 armed agents from the facility after failure to produce requested legal documentation http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/20...ife-rescue-ngo/ -------------------- “We must fight against the spirit of unconscious cruelty with which we treat the animals. Animals suffer as much as we do. True humanity does not allow us to impose such sufferings on them. It is our duty to make the whole world recognize it. Until we extend our circle of compassion to all living things, humanity will not find peace.”
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 17 2012, 04:14 PM
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Tweeted by Edwin Wiek 5 hours ago - see video at link
Todays best moment, Thai actor and singer TOM DUNDEE stops the raid by threatening trouble THAI SPOKEN http://bit.ly/xWnr0q Keep sharing this story! The pressure needs to stay on! UPDATE: Someone translated. Translation here: http://www.facebook.com/WildlifeFriendsFoundation -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 18 2012, 01:41 AM
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Getting bigger press:
Endangered animals confiscated in Thailand after sanctuary founder speaks out http://www.examiner.com/dog-training-in-lo...nder-speaks-out Armed Thai Officials Raid Wildlife Rescue NGO’s In an exposé for The Nation on January 24th, Wiek specifically mentioned corruption by politicians, government officials and businessmen tied to elephant camps and the cover-up of baby elephant smuggling to “safe houses” near Thailand’s borders and, on February 12, was quoted in The Guardian about a tiger trafficking bust allegedly in connection with several private zoos in Thailand. (See The Guardian and The Nation). http://www.chiangraitimes.com/news/5785.html Tweeted by Edwin Wiek 5 hrs ago: 6th day of the battle for rescued wildlife! No idea what time DNP be back, help for us from Bangkok is mobilized. Natl TV present today. https://twitter.com/#!/EdwinWiek -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 18 2012, 02:01 AM
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Edwin Wiek sums up the problem:
Thai officials raid WFFT Animal sanctuary, Feb 15, 2012 "Some people still see the big money that can be made from the poaching, the wildlife trade and the wildlife slaughterhouses, as a forcing drive. These people are in my humble opinion the filth of society, on one line with drug dealers and human traffickers. The reality however is different as the officials here, in this case the Department of National Parks do not mind the NGO’s helping out as long as they are blind, deaf and dumb. You will be allowed to help, in the case of the Wildlife Friends Foundation Thailand (WFFT), for a period of almost 12 years, but only if you do not speak up about the problems that Thailand’s wildlife and currently especially the wild elephants of Thailand face." --Edwin Wiek http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-749251?ref=feeds/latest Keep sharing this story. It has the power to transform the region. Petition: http://tiny.cc/thairaid -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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| Space4Eles |
Posted: Feb 18 2012, 06:33 AM
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Some reports under the title “Armed Thai Officials Raid Wildlife Rescue NGO[s]” state that the elephants at WFFT have been confiscated.
A member of TEC Facebook advises that this is not true. -------------------- "They need to move and have stimulation. They need to be browsing, foraging, socialising. They need to have reason for movement." Pat Derby, PAWS, on elephants' needs.
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 18 2012, 06:51 PM
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Hard to keep track of all the info coming in on this story.
Cross-referencing. See post in "Elephant Smuggling/Trafficking", Thailand": "Instead of going after the commercial elephant camps the DNP now attacks Thai rescue NGO’s to shut them up? While these places are raided elephant camps in Huahin, Ayutthaya, Pattaya and in de rest of Thailand are moving out their young elephants into hiding!" http://z13.invisionfree.com/Elephant_Comme...ndpost&p=757131 Parks Department out of order, Opinion The DNP is seizing all animals and arresting WFFT staff, claiming animal torture and no licence to hold wild animals.... This situation is disgraceful, as the WFFT is protecting the same interests as the DNP. -- Olivier Douard, Bangkok http://www.nationmultimedia.com/opinion/Pa...r-30176130.html This post was updated Mar 5, 2012 by t&tt. -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 20 2012, 01:18 AM
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Tweet from Edwin Wiek 1 hr ago:
DNP officials that raided us last week will be charged with theft in court for removing unprotected animals from @WFFThai https://twitter.com/#!/EdwinWiek Pics (Warning: distressing) http://www.facebook.com/WildlifeFriendsFoundation?sk=photos Keep sharing, writing newspapers, contacting Thai embassy: http://tiny.cc/wfftrc -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 20 2012, 04:41 PM
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Tweet from Edwin Wiek, Founder WFFT 11 hrs ago:
HOT NEWS new raid by DNP confirmed by officials. Not interested in evidence but just want to save face? Need help! https://twitter.com/#!/EdwinWiek Tweet from Edwin Wiek Founder WFFT 7 hrs ago: For the first time in my life I feel that evil power might win from what is right and good. 12 years wasted. https://twitter.com/#!/EdwinWiek Tweet from LucyClark WFFT Hospital Mgr 5 hrs ago: Corruption. We have been very outspoken about elephant killings, and now the DNP are trying to silence us. Animals now suffering https://twitter.com/#!/LucyWildlife Keep it going! Contact the embassies, newspapers, tweet, etc. http://tiny.cc/wfftrc -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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| Space4Eles |
Posted: Feb 21 2012, 11:43 AM
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Thanks for keeping us all up to date in these dangerous times, t&tt ...
-------------------- "They need to move and have stimulation. They need to be browsing, foraging, socialising. They need to have reason for movement." Pat Derby, PAWS, on elephants' needs.
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 21 2012, 02:09 PM
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Tweets from Edwin:
9 hrs ago Officials gathered at 10AM near our village but left about 10:30 for no known reason. Currently taking further legal steps. Storm is over?...Elephant killings must stop! 3hrs ago Had almost full house at #FCCT press conference in Bangkok today. Very happy to see many Thai supporters. 17mins ago All staff and volunteers arrived back @WFFThai at 1.30AM from the press release. Tmr I have to be on live talkshow in evening so back to Bkk https://twitter.com/#!/EdwinWiek FYI, Petition closed. Brought to FCCT press conference Tues night. 20k+ signatures submitted. #20,000 was a Thai woman. UPDATE: Feb 22 Petition was reopened - New goal 50k: http://tiny.cc/thairaid VIDEO: Edwin talking to CITES Thailand: http://bit.ly/xAqcsJ -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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Posted: Feb 22 2012, 02:18 AM
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VIDEO: Edwin FCCT press conference Feb 21:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...d&v=Mfb88Ja_AaY -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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| Ellie |
Posted: Feb 22 2012, 08:10 AM
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Thanks for keeping everyone posted on the events in Thailand. Finally it seems that the confiscation of animals from WFFT and ENP has stopped. I tried to watch the videos of the monkeys being captured but couldn't finish watching. Horrible! |
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 22 2012, 02:03 PM
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Heartbreaking, yes.
2 hrs ago Raid begins: Lucy Clark, WFFT hospital- pic: https://twitter.com/#!/LucyWildlife/sta...2418688/photo/1 Edwin: Tomorrow surely will be raided again. The use of helicopter confirmed, armed people now at our center at night. Animal rescue is a crime? https://twitter.com/#!/EdwinWiek Letter writing resources: http://www.wix.com/anoelle45/wffthelp#!resources -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 22 2012, 10:30 PM
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The first asiatic bear just been taken. They darted her twice and she is currently in a tiny cage with a towel on her face and probably won't able to move when she will wake up... We are all shocked... They are still talking about taking 103 animals away...
http://on.fb.me/xytyqW Email addys: https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=256085667803867 Petition reopened. 50k goal. Please share: http://tiny.cc/thairaid -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 23 2012, 05:49 AM
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Tweet from Edwin 30 mins ago:
please understand that now this problem is very big. Some people now will try everything to make us look bad. make up bad story. https://twitter.com/#!/EdwinWiek Edwin spoke in-studio on Thai TV 5. Translation: http://on.fb.me/x7C1yZ -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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Posted: Feb 23 2012, 03:49 PM
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Absolute HORROR!
103 animals seized in wildlife centre raid http://www.bangkokpost.com/lite/news/28129...ife-centre-raid Follow WFFT FB for action steps. It's a public page. https://www.facebook.com/WildlifeFriendsFoundation -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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| Ellie |
Posted: Feb 23 2012, 05:17 PM
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My thoughts are with WFFT Staff and Volunteers as they watch the animals they love and care for ripped away from their home. Their heartbreak can be felt across oceans.
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 23 2012, 05:54 PM
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Dutch media has picked this story up: http://bit.ly/yLOapu
This needs more media attention. If you have media contacts please send them this compiled post: http://bit.ly/zzsNuD Please tweet/share! -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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| Space4Eles |
Posted: Feb 24 2012, 03:11 PM
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From WFFT 24 Feb 2012 - Edwin Wiek answers the DNP accusations:
Only tools of the DNP are lies and ungrounded accusations, while they hide behind their “laws” http://www.wfft.org/wildlife-general/only-...ed-accusations/ -------------------- "They need to move and have stimulation. They need to be browsing, foraging, socialising. They need to have reason for movement." Pat Derby, PAWS, on elephants' needs.
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 24 2012, 06:21 PM
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Someone on WFFT FB got a reply back from BornFree:
...We are calling on the public to make their voices heard on this matter, therefore, if you have not done so already, please contact your Thai Embassy asking that they investigate this matter urgently. For UK residents, the contact details for the Ambassador in London are provided below: His Excellency Mr Kitti Wasinondh Ambassador Extraordinary & Plenipotentiary Royal Thai Embassy 29-30 Queen’s Gate London SW7 5JB Email: thaiduto@btinternet.com Those outside the UK, will find the relevant contact details for their Thai Embassy at http://www.thaiembassy.org/ . Apparently Ricky Gervais tweeted to his 1 million+ following re: the petition http://tiny.cc/thairaid which is now 38k+ -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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| Ellie |
Posted: Feb 24 2012, 08:01 PM
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Embassy letter sent.
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| t&tt |
Posted: Feb 24 2012, 08:30 PM
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...The DNP applauded their efforts after catching the final gibbon, cheering themselves and telling foreign WFFT staff and volunteers to go back to their own country.
https://www.facebook.com/saveallelephants/p...380990078595919 DNP = cancer cells, destroying the Thai social fabric/body Cancer is, quite simply, our own cells that have turned so "selfish" that they no longer do their assigned roles (e.g. be a liver cell, be a colon cell, be a lung cell), and instead just start selfishly hogging nutrients, fooling nearby cells into helping them, multiply, and eventually destroy the body. Meaning, kill the person they were supposed to be helping. http://www.mit.edu/~rei/spir-spiritcancer.html Sociopathic/psychopathic behavior is the cancer of all cultures/societies. Epidemiologist proves this: http://bit.ly/oAaxSg -------------------- People "would rather have a comfortable reality than an accurate reality." - Psychologist & Lawyer, Dr. Bryant Welch
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