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 Pastor James Mcconnell, Wow!
mrgas
Posted: May 30 2014, 02:41 AM


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Posted: May 30 2014, 06:49 AM


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QUOTE (mrgas @ May 30 2014, 02:41 AM)
This is jaw dropping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xYu-OaUaq0

Unbelievable
But sadly not.

Over recent years I have read similar comments on this forum, and now, potentially, we have nasty, ignorant right wing parties gaining influence and perhaps power across Europe and the Uk.

All under the guise of Nationalism.....

Sickening.
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Posted: May 30 2014, 07:02 PM


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Pastor McConnell is absolutely spot on what did he say that was so wrong to outrage the Islamic apologists and pathetic religious bigots like The Guardians Andrew Brown?

Islam is satanic and evil as is the peado,blood thirsty prophet Mohammad,the Hindu Bible describes Islam as demonic.

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Posted: May 30 2014, 07:11 PM


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QUOTE (zfc @ May 30 2014, 07:02 PM)
Pastor McConnell is absolutely spot on what did he say that was so wrong to outrage the Islamic apologists and pathetic religious bigots like The Guardians Andrew Brown?

You make my point.
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Posted: May 30 2014, 07:15 PM


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I have proved nothing apart from the fact you are an apologist for a satanic religion that you followed.
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Posted: May 30 2014, 07:26 PM


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Posted: May 30 2014, 07:35 PM


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You need help as you are also an apologist for a vile stoneage religion that refuses to modernise.
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Posted: May 30 2014, 07:41 PM


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Sticks & stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me:

Obviously sound rational behaviour

Strange how anyone could view Islam as evil & barbaric isn’t it? Still I guess this has nothing to do with Nationalism and everything to do with the second class treatment of women under Islam.
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Posted: May 30 2014, 07:47 PM


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Did you watch the pastor, Paul? What did you think?
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Posted: May 30 2014, 08:08 PM


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QUOTE (paul_gas @ May 30 2014, 07:41 PM)
Sticks & stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me:

Obviously sound rational behaviour

Strange how anyone could view Islam as evil & barbaric isn’t it? Still I guess this has nothing to do with Nationalism and everything to do with the second class treatment of women under Islam.

talibanned doesn`t care a toss about womens rights in Islam.He has already stated on the forum that the women in Britain raped and then murdered by the males in their families in so called honour killings asked for it.
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Posted: May 30 2014, 09:19 PM


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QUOTE (mrgas @ May 30 2014, 07:47 PM)
Did you watch the pastor, Paul? What did you think?

Obviously you are in agreement with the punishment handed out to that poor woman in Sudan in the name of Islam. Completely unsurprised about that.

Read the story about the Pastor the other day, the power of media eh.

PS: don't forget the £50 for St Peters Hospice ;)
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Posted: May 30 2014, 09:45 PM


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QUOTE (paul_gas @ May 30 2014, 09:19 PM)
QUOTE (mrgas @ May 30 2014, 07:47 PM)
Did you watch the pastor, Paul? What did you think?

Obviously you are in agreement with the punishment handed out to that poor woman in Sudan in the name of Islam. Completely unsurprised about that.

Read the story about the Pastor the other day, the power of media eh.

PS: don't forget the £50 for St Peters Hospice ;)

Why would you think that? I bet you £100 to a charity that you cannot find any post which might suggest I advocate the death penalty for anyone. My chosen charity is Save the Children, thanks.

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Posted: May 30 2014, 09:53 PM


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QUOTE (zfc @ May 30 2014, 08:08 PM)
QUOTE (paul_gas @ May 30 2014, 07:41 PM)
Sticks & stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me:

Obviously sound rational behaviour

Strange how anyone could view Islam as evil & barbaric isn’t it? Still I guess this has nothing to do with Nationalism and everything to do with the second class treatment of women under Islam.

talibanned doesn`t care a toss about womens rights in Islam.He has already stated on the forum that the women in Britain raped and then murdered by the males in their families in so called honour killings asked for it.


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Posted: May 30 2014, 10:52 PM


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Mrgas you are a complete and utter cock.

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Posted: May 31 2014, 12:54 AM


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QUOTE (salfords gas @ May 30 2014, 10:52 PM)
Mrgas you are a complete and utter cock.
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Posted: May 31 2014, 04:34 AM


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This, in a "Christian" Country

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Growing desires for land along Kenya’s Indian Ocean coastline are allegedly causing a rise in ‘witch lynchings’ by residents to intimidate their elderly relatives who own the title deeds of desirable areas.

Sadaka Muruu, 100, who owns 12 acres of sought-after land in coastal Kilifi county, claimed she was told by her grandchildren that they would burn her alive after investors asked about purchasing it.

The frightened grandmother was allegedly dragged naked from her home in January by relatives who had turned up without notice, and told neighbours they had caught her doing witchcraft.


Apparently there have dozens killed this way, I strongly suspect that religion does not come into it.

Not sure that these lunatics represent Christians either

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Abortion clinics, providers and workers often live in fear of Christian activists. Only recently captured, Eric Rudolph has been charged with a deadly bombing at the Olympics and with two other blasts in Atlanta at abortion clinics. Although the choice of the Olympics as a target may sound strange, it must be remembered that many far-right Christians regard anything which smacks of internationalism - the UN, the IMF, and the Olympics - as tools of Satan. The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms regards the other recent attempted bombings and attempted arson attacks at Alabama abortion clinics to represent a heightened threat to life and property.

Government officials in both Canada and the United States have issued warnings to abortion doctors to take extra precautions. Anti-abortion extremists in Britain have warned the public that there "will be casualties" in the coming war, and that they did not intend to "turn the other cheek." As the anti-abortion rhetoric has increased over the years, so has the anti-abortion violence - property is destroyed, people are killed, and women are denied access to medical care.

When Muslim extremists place a bomb at a bus station in Israel, it is justifiably regarded as an act committed by "Muslim Terrorists." When are we going to wake up and recognize that similar acts here are being committed by "Christian Terrorists?"


But I am sure some ill informed headline reader will claim they do...
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Posted: May 31 2014, 08:09 AM


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Sorry Oldie but yes their are lynchings around the world for 'witchcraft' & others issues. I particularly used the Sudan example as it was a court decision based on Sharia law therefore it was directly following the teachings of Islam. I deliberately didn't use the example of the 'dishonour' killing in Pakistan as I believe those to be not so religious as cultural across the Indian sub-continent. Perhaps you need to understand the difference there.

Perhaps rather than getting offended by the words of a wacky pastor you should start commentating on Islamic courts findings.

Of course very interesting that neither you or mrgas can condemn this or similar actions.

If people see Christian terrorists then yep condemn them personally I've not seen the story you quoted but I'd condemn any such actions. Whether they are religiously or politically motivated. It's a shame you & your friend can't do the shame.
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Posted: May 31 2014, 08:12 AM


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QUOTE (mrgas @ May 30 2014, 09:45 PM)
QUOTE (paul_gas @ May 30 2014, 09:19 PM)
QUOTE (mrgas @ May 30 2014, 07:47 PM)
Did you watch the pastor, Paul? What did you think?

Obviously you are in agreement with the punishment handed out to that poor woman in Sudan in the name of Islam. Completely unsurprised about that.

Read the story about the Pastor the other day, the power of media eh.

PS: don't forget the £50 for St Peters Hospice ;)

Why would you think that? I bet you £100 to a charity that you cannot find any post which might suggest I advocate the death penalty for anyone. My chosen charity is Save the Children, thanks.

Oh diddums it's like the school ground. I'm just using your perverse logic, obviously it is flawed.

Still haven't condemned the barbaric action of your Muslims friends. It's not hard, go on you can do it, it's only a few words & you can always change your mind later like normal.
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Posted: May 31 2014, 08:27 AM


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QUOTE (paul_gas @ May 31 2014, 08:09 AM)
Sorry Oldie but yes their are lynchings around the world for 'witchcraft' & others issues. I particularly used the Sudan example as it was a court decision based on Sharia law therefore it was directly following the teachings of Islam. I deliberately didn't use the example of the 'dishonour' killing in Pakistan as I believe those to be not so religious as cultural across the Indian sub-continent. Perhaps you need to understand the difference there.

Perhaps rather than getting offended by the words of a wacky pastor you should start commentating on Islamic courts findings.

Of course very interesting that neither you or mrgas can condemn this or similar actions.

If people see Christian terrorists then yep condemn them personally I've not seen the story you quoted but I'd condemn any such actions. Whether they are religiously or politically motivated. It's a shame you & your friend can't do the shame.

Yes Paul
I accept that.
The murder in Sudan, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc etc, is committed under the cloak of Islam, an interpretation of Sharia Law.

The vast majority of Muslims that I know do not accept that interpretation.

Generally, the interpretations made by these murdering authorities are used to suppress their populations. The populations themselves not accepting that interpretation, hence the suppression and murder.

The problem is that many headlines we are subjected to in the Uk misses this fact, misses the fact that what is being described as Islam is in fact a minority interpretation utilised to suppress populations suffering corrupt, autocratic theocracies.

Many of these regimes supported by our own government for economic or political convenience.

Over to the new forum, perhaps?
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Posted: May 31 2014, 08:39 AM


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QUOTE (Oldie @ May 31 2014, 08:27 AM)
QUOTE (paul_gas @ May 31 2014, 08:09 AM)
Sorry Oldie but yes their are lynchings around the world for 'witchcraft' & others issues. I particularly used the Sudan example as it was a court decision based on Sharia law therefore it was directly following the teachings of Islam. I deliberately didn't use the example of the 'dishonour' killing in Pakistan as I believe those to be not so religious as cultural across the Indian sub-continent. Perhaps you need to understand the difference there.

Perhaps rather than getting offended by the words of a wacky pastor you should start commentating on Islamic courts findings.

Of course very interesting that neither you or mrgas can condemn this or similar actions.

If people see Christian terrorists then yep condemn them personally I've not seen the story you quoted but I'd condemn any such actions. Whether they are religiously or politically motivated. It's a shame you & your friend can't do the shame.

Yes Paul
I accept that.
The murder in Sudan, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc etc, is committed under the cloak of Islam, an interpretation of Sharia Law.

The vast majority of Muslims that I know do not accept that interpretation.

Generally, the interpretations made by these murdering authorities are used to suppress their populations. The populations themselves not accepting that interpretation, hence the suppression and murder.

The problem is that many headlines we are subjected to in the Uk misses this fact, misses the fact that what is being described as Islam is in fact a minority interpretation utilised to suppress populations suffering corrupt, autocratic theocracies.

Many of these regimes supported by our own government for economic or political convenience.

Over to the new forum, perhaps?

You are right that perceptions are formed by stories in the media (a couple of voodoo murders in the Caribbean & everyone would be convinced you'll be eaten by cannibals on a Caribbean holiday for example). But mrgas started a thread about a wacko pastor stating his views on Islam (we have the right to free speech in this country & laws to cover hate speech) i merely pointed out an example that backed up how he could come to that conclusion, an example that regrettably neither you or mrgas can condemn.

Now it is not my issue to correct people's perception of Islam that is for moderate Muslims & Muslim friendly people to do. I'd suggest the best way of that is to highlight positive aspects of Islam not the negative aspects of others (that will absolutely be lost on one of you ;) ).

Sorry I should've added that whilst you try to talk about moderate & not moderate Muslims I'd argue that the treatment of women in Islam is mostly disgusting in the moderate or not moderate. Until women are free to live their lives as men (ie choose what they where, who they marry, talk to who they like etc) then I'll personally regard Islam as a barbaric & evil religion (but to balance it up I don't have a high regard of any religions).

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