Title: Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
Gamera - December 7, 2006 02:21 PM (GMT)
|William Shatner's original storyline for the movie was pretty much identical to the final film, until the actual confrontation on the God planet. Instead of an alien masquerading as God, it is actually revealed that Satan was an alien. Kirk, Spock, and McCoy (the latter two actually having succumbed to Sybok's brainwashing) begin to run in different directions. Spock and McCoy are surrounded by an army of the Furies of Hell, demonic beings summoned by Satan. Kirk risks his life and goes back to save them, but McCoy has been carried back across the river Styx, into Hell. The two rescue him, and the film follows the basic outline from there on out, with the exception of the image of "God" following Kirk to the Klingon Bird-Of-Prey. Some fans and critics feel that this much darker storyline, which actually transcends "The Final Frontier", would have resulted in a much more satisfying movie. Others feel that an even more overt focus on God would have made the film worse.|
One of the frequent criticisms of the film is the humor that was shoehorned into the script (written by Harve Bennett and David Loughery), at the insistence of Paramount. The initial storyline by William Shatner was much darker, but after the success of the humor-filled Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, Paramount insisted that the story be "lightened up" with humorous elements. Fans complained that too much of the humor was at the expense of the popular supporting characters, particularly Uhura and Scotty, who the film strongly hints are romantically involved. However, much of the humor is also at the expense of the main characters (including Kirk).
It is a real shame that Shatner's vision wasn't made. It sounds like an interesting storyline for sure. Maybe they will be able to use the ideas later in another Trek series or movie in the future
SpaceTigger - December 7, 2006 02:50 PM (GMT)
I had never heard about Shatner's original vision for the movie..Too bad it wasn't made in this way.. I like this movie more than most fans but this different darker storyline would have been better in my opinion..I never liked the implied romance between Scotty and Uhura..That seemed to come out of nowhere..
Gamera - December 7, 2006 03:45 PM (GMT)
I like the movie as well, it had one of my favorite scenes
Kirk: All I ask is a tall ship, and a star to steer by.
Spock: ...John Maysfield.
McCoy: Are you sure about that?
Spock: I am well-versed in the classics, Doctor.
McCoy: Then how come you don't know "Row, Row, Row Your Boat?"
Airies - January 11, 2007 07:56 PM (GMT)
I just watched this on Cinemax. I read that about Shatners origianl vision of the movie a long time ago Gamera. I think it was in his biography. After the idea of Satan then they thought about rock monsters. I read the main reason they used the "God Image" was to stay within budget. Shatner was very unhappy but he had no choice.
I love the humor in the film. That's one thing I always say is no other show caught the relationship as ther was with Kirk, Spock and McCoy.
One the relationship between Scotty and Uhura. I think since she was under the influence of Sybok she was open to any small feeling she ever had. Since her last "romance feeling" may have been that little harmless flirt with Scott on the bridge I think that is where it came from.
I don't know about you, but most women I've ever worked with there was always a little harmless flirting between me and them. Especially at Christmas parites and such. I even had a girl dance on a desk for me. Don't worry I always told Branwen. She was jealous yes, but she understood.
Last thing, with all the talk abou brothers I wish Kirk had mentioned Sam. We never heard anything else about him since his death which is sad.
I know this movie was rated the worse by most critics. I still love it. My favorite scenes are the camping scenes. "Bourbon and beans and explosive combination!" :laugh: :LoveTrek
Gamera - November 22, 2007 07:33 PM (GMT)
I watched this movie again today and I still feel that this was underrated. There are just so many great scenes in this movie; such as previously stated and also when Spock has the gun pointed at Sybok and Kirk screams "Shoot him!!!" but Spock doesn't. A great scene!
I too thought it was kind of strange that Kirk did the line "I had a brother once, but I was lucky to get him back". It was a touching reference to Spock, but he also had a real brother. I guess you can say that Spock ment more to him than his real brother, which could be true, but the real truth was that they were trying to give us the "ahhhhh :wub: " warm fuzzy feeling