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 Separation and Ego Thoughts, Are another's ego thoughts ours?
neo
Posted: Nov 12 2005, 12:56 PM


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It has been said in the Text study that ego thoughts are not our real thoughts. The ego is a false self that we created. In other parts of the Course it is said that we share one mind and no thought is in isolation (as I recall). We are not separate from each other, that is illusion.

That brings up the question of whether another's ego thoughts are our thoughts (but not our real thoughts). Since there is only us and God, whose are these thoughts if not ours? Are they not shared thoughts in our mind that appears fragmented? How can another's thoughts be separate?
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Paloma
Posted: Nov 12 2005, 04:10 PM


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QUOTE (neo @ Nov 12 2005, 06:56 PM)
It has been said in the Text study that ego thoughts are not our real thoughts. The ego is a false self that we created. In other parts of the Course it is said that we share one mind and no thought is in isolation (as I recall). We are not separate from each other, that is illusion.

That brings up the question of whether another's ego thoughts are our thoughts (but not our real thoughts). Since there is only us and God, whose are these thoughts if not ours? Are they not shared thoughts in our mind that appears fragmented? How can another's thoughts be separate?

Well the Course also makes the point that what we think are not thoughts at all. It further says that the ego cannot be shared, so this makes it really difficult to answer those questions. I do think that at some level we hear and have access to the thoughts of everybody else including ego thoughts and holy spirit thoughts since we are joined minds. I think we differ in the extent to which we believe or put faith in the ego thoughts, however.
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SunshineGoddess
Posted: Nov 15 2005, 01:11 PM


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My 2c worth is that ego stems from the idea that we are separate from our God source. It is when we are becoming aware and conscious that ego begins to become more our mind thoughts. So as you begin to be more aware you also begin to see parts of yourself that you might not have understood before, it is the mindful awareness that takes place within and without. In meditation you are taught to quiet the mind, not ego, in thoughts.

It is a normal thing we do to react, feel, observe that which is around us - this is what I believe the course is talking about as ego that it is separate from God - our reaction can separate us from the source by our own judgement of what we see only because of what has occurred. When we decide to look within what we are seeing and feeling we then begin to open to a new way of mind thought that is attached to source and not separate.

In short - Ego is a being that is separate mind from source, once you are with your source and open to observation of such it changes to mindfulness of mind. Because mind is not accustomed to this idea we see it at times of fear based thought coming up only because it has been closed in the physical brain aspect for so long that it requires us to penetrate the brain waves open. If a child is allowed to open naturally without our interference at times with our mind ideas/thoughts, I would hazard a guess and say he/she would not develop an ego to deal with but a mind.

Hope this makes sense.

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